this is what i got, i need printer monitor and os Lexmark X6150 Multi-function printer, 19 PPM, 4800 x 1200 DPI, Color/B&W - $129 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=28-106-141&depa=0) 1 year warrenty CTX VL700B 17" CRT Monitor -RETAIL - $95 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-103-155&depa=0) 3 year limited warranty on CRT, parts and labor Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM - $86 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=37-102-141&depa=0) warrenty through manufacturer MSI nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Athlon 64 Socket 754 CPU, Model "K8N Neo Platinum" (MS-7030) -RETAIL - $130 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-457&depa=0) item exchange only AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512k L2 Cache, The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor - Retail - $282 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-483&depa=0) 3 year MFG OCZ Enhanced Bandwidth Series Platinum Edition 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3500, Model OCZ4331024EBDCPE-K - Retail - $299 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-983&depa=0) lifetime warrenty eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N344-AX" -RETAIL - $399 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-203&depa=0) exchange only Lite-On Black 52X32X52X16 Combo Drive, Model SOHC-5232K, OEM Bulk Pack - $48.50 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-106-932&depa=0) no warrenty ASPIRE X-Sonic Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "ATXA4KW-BK/350" -RETAIL - $55 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-144-074&depa=0) no warrenty Seagate 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model ST3120022A, OEM - $84 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-148-020&depa=0) 1 year SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model MPF920, OEM - $11.99 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=21-103-116&depa=0) no warrenty If anything i have on my list you bought and was a piece of junk please tell me, and im trying to keep it under 1600$
the Neo chipset is terrible its near enough beaten by the VIA (which is pretty strange) and since neither chipsets overclock well its prolly best to go for a K8V-Deluxe, trust me ive used every Socket64 u can think of.
on the bargin bard board someone posted a deal with a amd 3200+ with a ASUS "K8V SE Deluxe" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL is that one any good?
sounds a great gaming machine.... what really lets it down is the ctx crt, don't go for the value series (i have an old vl700) since they only support up to 1280 at ~60hz which is terrible imho, go for the higher models, the ex series etc... that support at least 1280 at 80+hz edit: jus went on the ctx webbie, the current 17" monitors all look rubbish, maybe go for an iiyama, heard many a raving on this board!
well i was gonna go with a 19, id id rather had the good hardware then the top of the line monitor. im trying to keep it under 1600 and what i have htere ia 1584, unless i hear good things about that one mobo hen its under 1500 and can upgrade my monitor
it's good to spend a bit extra on a monitor especially on a crt cos a little goes a long way. u'll be looking at it a lot so u don't want a poop refresh rate that'll make ur eyes bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed :Q
Unless there's been some act of god I missed avoid Lexmark printers, they are slow, have poor quality control, offer comparitively poor quality, have tiny ink tanks and are usually VERY expensive to run. If you want multi-function I'd suggest HP although I haven't really looked into multis in any great detail. I'd also suggest 19" CRT or 15" LCD, CTX is also known to be a budget brand. The CRT would give you a very nice increase in size, often better refresh rates, more resolutions and for marginally more cash. The LCD would be much better for your eyes, 2D work, and has lower emmisions and power consumption. However the LCD is poorer for gaming and movies, firstly due to its native res and secondly because pixel response (though much improved) is still inferior to a CRT. So if you like gaming and watching movies the CRT is best, if it's more for work/2D the LCD is best. nForce3_250 & VIA K8T800 PRO are the best two chipsets esp if you plan to o/c, I'd suggest nForce because VIA generally have many more flaws. 64_3200+ is great but 64_3000+ may save you a fair bit of cash, perf is close, 3000+ is great if you are planning to o/c. I don't personally rate OCZ too highly, and I wouldn't pay much extra for any 'low latency' chips either. If you're staying stock PC3200 is all you need, if you plan to o/c faster stuff is ideal. 6800GT is a great choice, if I were buying in the top-end that is what I'd go for even though the X800_Pro is very close. I wouldn't choose a combo drive though, not with DVD Writers being so cheap now, if you plan to burn a lot of CDs be sure to check CD burn speed, 32x or higher is actually close to 52x in real burn times. I don't know that case but Newegg stock the Sonata, that would be the puppy I'd go for, 3700BQE if you want to save a little more. Both come with great Antec PSUs and use 120mm fans (quiet and shift a lot of air).
neither they both suck, the most you will get is 30mhz at a push (which being AMD is a theoretical 200mhz extra) and thats all you will get, nothing massive at all.
There are 2 variants of each. Clawhammer cores have 1MB cache; 3200+ is 2.0ghz while 3000+ is still 2.0ghz but with half the cache disabled. Newcastle is the newer core and has 512k cache but generally higher clocks; 3200+ is 2.2ghz but 3000+ is still 2.0ghz (as both CH & Newc effectively have 512k). The CPU itself is likely to be capable of around 2.4ghz but these CPUs are all locked so you may need a mobo with locked PCI/AGP like those based on VIA K8T800 PRO or nVidia's nForce3 250. For o/c'ing it's also ideal to have faster RAM than PC3200 too. I don't own any Athlon64 so this is all to the best of my knowledge ... 3000+ (and CH 1MB 3200+) is 10x200mhz=2ghz so for 2.4ghz you'd need 10x240 which is probably asking too much of any mobo and would ideally need PC4000. Wasn't one chipset (nForce3_250) potentially ready for 1000HT (ie 250mhz)? 3200+ (512k) uses 11x200=2.2ghz which would only need 11x218 for 2.4ghz and would only need PC3500. There could be potential mobo and RAM savings by using XP3200+ (512k).
well i got pc 3500 ram that im going to buy, but i was looking and right no on ebay i can get pc 4000 kingston hyperx ram for 275 ish. but i still done know what core to go with, the newcastle clocks faster but has a smaller l2 cache which mean worse performance doesnt it? (i think great deal on the kingston ram.) 259$ for 1 gig 512x2 pc-4000 at http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-144-137&DEPA=0
The extra 200mhz the Newcastle has is easily more beneficial overall than 1MB L2 cache, but this could change when we get into 64bit apps. The main advantage of the Newcastle approach is cheaper production (cache is expensive and Athlon64 scale well), cooler running (less cache means less heat) and if you o/c you don't have to push the mobo and RAM as hard. Since the Newcastle is the newer core there may have also been a few minor enhancements which would make the CPU better able to handle faster speeds, run cooler or both. I doubt we're talking very significant diffs here, but we might as well split hairs!
ok, changed some stuff around and its now 1523 PHILIPS 107B55 17" CRT Monitor - RETAIL - $112 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-133-128&depa=0) 3 year limited warranty on CRT, parts and labor Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM - $86 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=37-102-141&depa=0) warrenty through manufacturer MSI nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Athlon 64 Socket 754 CPU, Model "K8N Neo Platinum" (MS-7030) -RETAIL - $130 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-457&depa=0) item exchange only AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512k L2 Cache, The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor - Retail - $282 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-483&depa=0) 3 year MFG Kingston HyperX Series Dual Kits 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000 - $259 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-144-137&DEPA=0 lifetime warrenty eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N344-AX" -RETAIL - $399 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-203&depa=0) exchange only Lite-On Black 52X32X52X16 Combo Drive, Model SOHC-5232K, OEM Bulk Pack - $48.50 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-106-932&depa=0) no warrenty ANTEC Life Style Series Black Case With 380W Power Supply, Model "SONATA" - $99 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-127&depa=0) no warrenty SAMSUNG 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model SP1213C, OEM Drive Only - $95.50 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-017&depa=0) 3 year SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model MPF920, OEM - $11.99 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=21-103-116&depa=0) no warrenty
You realise Skt754 isn't Dual Channel so there's no need for 2 sticks, esp any pricey 'dual matched' ones? Of course 2x512MB may be cheaper than 1x1GB!
You are only going to dissapoint yourself getting a 17" CRT. Get a 19" CRT. I personally love my Viewsonic A90f+ EDIT: I personally think that your RAM is overkill; some Geil could be had for far less; you dont need that Kingston stuff. If you overclock, the Kingston stuff will give you more performance, but come on! The visual difference will be un-noticable in games.
i wanna have the ability to overclock (i know the amd's arnt that great for itbecause their locked but i cant afford the fx's) so i though some good ram would help me out
Some good Ram would help marginally-but you probably wont be able to squeeze too much more out of the processor without investing a lot more in better cooling. Subsequently, some Geil is a much better purchase for you IMHO EDIT: And seriously, you WANT a bigger monitor. I cant stand using anything smaller than 19" for gaming
No, Im saying save $100 on your ram and spend it on a bigger monitor. You can invest in watercooling at a later date.
wish i already had these thing, im useing a 17 incyh moitor right now but whenever i turn it off i have to turn the contrast all the way down then turn it back up to get color, then i would save myself like 250$
