im building a new pc for/maybe just after christmas im still stuck on the main factor of to go with the new nforce 4 + pci-e boards or just stick with agp currently i have 2 ideas of what i would get setup 1) - AMD Athlon 64 3000+/or 3200+ is it worth the extra £30? Socket 939 £100 - nforce3+? ultra? via? mobo (with agp) £80 - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 NCQ 80GB SATA150 7200rpm 8MB £45 - case and 400w psu £50 - Radeon 9800Pro 128MB/or 256mb? as i wont be upgrading for years (AGP)£115 - dual channel 2x256mb? pc3200? DDR ram £75 total = around £465 (im ment to spend around £400 and pay extra for anything above ) *** feel free to suggest any changes or ideas on memory, cpu, mobo **** setup 2) - AMD Athlon 64 3000+/or 3200+ is it worth the extra £30? Socket 939 £100 -nforce 4? motherboard (pci-e) £90 - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 NCQ 80GB SATA150 7200rpm 8MB £45 - case and 400w psu £50 -radeon x600pro? geforce 6600gt or something? £70-110 - dual channel 2x256mb? pc3200? DDR ram £75 total = around £455+ what do you think? im finding it hard to choose between going with the 'newer ' PCI-E and the good old AGP? i have exculded the cd drives floppy drives extras other than the bare pc... i will be using my dads drives to set up my pc and then just keep the cd/dvd drive untill i can afford my own little extras and would it be worth waiting untill january for nice price drops and slightly better products out? this new threads proberly kinda long sorry...
on the first setup, if you go nforce3, a hard drive with NCQ will not help you at all... I would go nforce3 and save the money, then upgrade when the hardware can actually benefit from nforce4... as it stands right now, if you build a pretty much identical system with nforce3 and nforce4, you will notice very little difference in speed, performance, or anything else... Esspecially with only a x600 or 6600GT... The hardware just isn't utilizing the new PCI-E speeds or SATA II technology yet. NCQ would be nice, but you really wont see too much of a difference unless you are running a server and doing querys 24/7... My advice, stick with nforce3 / AGP and save yourself a few extra dollars with the same performance...
well i just though i might as well choose the seagate NCQ hdd as they are same price exactly the same spec except the newer version of it supports NCQ, i might aswell get the newer version at the same price? what kinda spec hardware would i need to use the pci-e benifit? ( i might spend and i might spend about £110 on pci-e card ) and would there be so little performace difference that it would be hard to measure?
id go for nf4 and the 6600gt, that way u can SLI the 6600gt in futur if u find the games are getting too much for ure gfx card for that reason alone id buy the nf4 setup, i really hate the depreciation rate of gfx cards throwing away old ones just hurt, this way its effectively just upgrading
I tell you what.... why dont you search through the 10thousand other "what pc" threads to see what everyone else is getting.
because the other what pc threads will be older and unaccurate to the time, price... not alone about what peoples new rigs will be e.g (INTEL) , and for a start nforce4 isnt even properly out yet >? and barry i see what you are getting at but, i will proberly end up keeping the gfx card im going to get for a long long time im not amasingly bothered about top graphics. i though i should get a 9800pro or something along that line as they are ment to be great value for money, i will have a decent graphics card for now and as it depreciates i wont be upgrading for a few years lol so is it realy worth getting nforce4 ?
in that case no, because the sli nf4 mobo's start at about £150. i still think P4 is the way to go atm.
lol dont even get started about processors took me longenough to even decide that and i have seen nforce4 mobos at about 1 or 2 about £90+ for instance gigabyte nforce4 board
Innacurate? There was just one around a few days ago.. son, I know new hardware comes fast but 3 days aren't going to make an impact on what you should buy. PS: My advice is to research stuff for yourself and put together a PC that is based on YOUR needs and wants, not someone else's. Just like the fish saying, I can give you a pc layout and satisfy your needs for a while, or I can point you in the right direction and satisfy you for life.
i dont do an amasing amount of gaming but it would proberly be a good idea to go for a gfx card thats going to last isnt it? i dought i will want to replace it for a few years lol. i will be using this pc for just about everything, except engineering cad and video edditing. i will play games quite a bit and be in the everyday desktop loads for just word processing, browsing the web, and talking to freinds. i would like this setup to last me a few years, and i will proberly build on it a little , but not much. is it worth paying £30 for 200mhz? proberly not i guess, and in my eyes im guessing im not realy going to need pci-e and there wont be only very minour performance changes in nforce 3 ultra and nforce4 and agp will be round for quite a while yet?
