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Build Advice New system build

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by tj010480, 19 May 2010.

  1. tj010480

    tj010480 What's a Dremel?

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    I’m currently looking to build a new pc (as my laptop died), and I came up with the following specs:

    CPU: i5-750
    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2
    Ram: 4GB XMS3 PC3 12800
    Case: open to suggestions
    Psu: open to suggestions
    Cooler: artic freezer pro
    HDD: Samsung spin point f3

    My budget is around £500 (excluding graphics card), however I’m not looking at buying a graphics card straight away, and after a couple of months will probably whack in a HD 5770. I will also try my hand at overclocking. I will be looking to run games at 1920x1080.
    The above (without the case + psu) comes to around 400, which leaves around 100 for a the case and the psu which is where I’m hoping some suggestions will be made ;)

    Firstly does the above seem acceptable, and will it be able to run games at 1920x1080 once I install a graphics card?
    Secondly I have seen overclocking bundles such as this one:

    http://www.awd-it.co.uk/scripts/pro...DR3+1600MHz+Memory+Overclocked+Bundle+BU014OC

    Is it worth spending abit more to have a pre-overclocked bundle considering I have no experience in overclocking:confused:?

    Advice much appreciated
     
  2. rollo

    rollo Modder

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    I'd say you need 4890 equivelent card for 1920 gaming

    so that's 5830 270 or the 4890 itself all are around the same performance levels, 5830 is really poor value and if you can find the 270 or 4890 instock and below £130 they are an excellent buy

    5770 will be game dependent, stalker crysis and bfbc2 I'd expect will struggle

    5770 bearly passes the old 4850 4870 area for performance

    3 cards above are all 30% faster at this resolution perticually once AA is appllied

    as the 5770 is cripplied memory wise.

    If you can get 5830 for below £170 it's a great buy if your a regular on here you might be able to get a second hand 4890 or 270 for a decent price check the Market place.

    The rest of your system is fine for this Rez as you won't be CPU capped no matter what pre crossfire or sli
     
  3. antonyand

    antonyand mmm Jaffa Cakes

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    Just a quick reply on the overclocking front.

    I saw OC bundle items too when purchsasing my rig(see sig), i ended up getting the same mbo and cpu, as 1 bundle i saw, but getting better ram for a saving of £100. Then spent a couple of hours OC'ing my system plus a bit more time leaving the PC run prime95 overnight or when at work.

    I end up £100 in pocket with a rock solid OC to 3.8Ghz with the power saving modes on. I'm super happy. Not sure i would be so happy if i'd bought the OC bundle tho.

    Also, thought i'd add. I'm no OC God, i did spend a fair bit of time reading up on my chip and mobo. I have had allot of fun with overclocking in the past on my old 939 chip but i've never had a Intel chip so i delt like a duck out of water (really don't know why i said that, put it this way i felt like a novice again)

    Anyways, if you get into OC problems your at the right place for help
     
  4. tj010480

    tj010480 What's a Dremel?

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    nice cheers for the advice, any more on how much power im going to need? I assume around 450 to 500w, and also cases? If i can I want to be able to get both for around £100...

    cheers
     
  5. bulldogjeff

    bulldogjeff The modding head is firmly back on.

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    The advantage of having pre overclocked systems and paying over the odds is that when it all goes bang you've got some one to shout at . With a self build if an individual component goes bang , you've got to dismantle the rig and RMA what ever component has just packed up. You also become your own technical help department....But then thats half the fun.
     
  6. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    stivalmighty What's a Dremel?

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  8. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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  9. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    On the case front, the Xigmatec Utgard comes recommended in the latest Custom PC mag.

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-006-XG

    It's quite a bit larger than the Antec 300 ... and more expensive of course (£68).

    I also like the Antec 300 however - that's what my current rig is in. The 300 is a bit tight, but it will fit a 5770 no problem - seems to fit your budget the best.
     
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  10. trokiijs1

    trokiijs1 What's a Dremel?

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    Get at least 750W CPU if you want OC and buy another gpu for crossfire
     
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  11. tj010480

    tj010480 What's a Dremel?

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    does it need to be as much as 750W? I'm not planning on crossfire anytime soon, and I like the look of the antec 300, and that would leave around 60 for the psu, just what power to go for if anyone can help with that?

    cheers for all your responses so far :)
     
  12. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Hes talking ******** mate. Look my sig and the PSU.
     
  13. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    If you're not going crossfire and you're running a 5770, you would get away with 500W or even a fair bit less. I run an overclocked i7 and a GTX295 (dual GPU) on 650W with no problems at all - similar to Ph4ZeD. I wouldn't recommend anything under 600W as a general rule however - you never know when you might need a bit more power. Also bear in mind that cheaper PSUs aren't particularly efficient/stable so you get what you pay for.

    There's a really useful PSU calculator here:
    http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

    I still think the Antec 650W is the PSU to go for ... you will be over budget slightly alongside the 300 but it's probably the best budget 650W PSU around right now. If you're primarily into gaming, I'd actually be inclined to investigate i3 processors before compromising further on the PSU - the i3's are still great gaming chips and overclock very well.
     
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  14. trokiijs1

    trokiijs1 What's a Dremel?

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    tj010480 What's a Dremel?

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    I'm sure i can find an extra bit of cash to stump up for the antec 650W, so now my build looks like this:

    CPU: i5-750
    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2
    Ram: 4GB XMS3 PC3 12800
    Case: Antec 300
    Psu: Antec 650W
    Cooler: artic freezer pro
    HDD: Samsung spin point f3

    and ill pick up a dvd drive along the way..... Anything I'm missing or overlooked? and where do people recommend to shop? I've used scan and overclockers before, anywhere else thats reliable?
     
  16. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Stick with Scan.
     
  17. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    Love it - nicely optimized budget build. You won't be hitting playable frame rates (well you don't have a real gpu as yet) on top quality settings with AA at 1920x1080 in latest games (need 5850/5870 for that). You could choose the 5770 later as you suggest and get a really nice balanced build however - it will run just fine on slightly lower settings.

    Re: retailiers - scan and overclockers are the ones I use. ebuyer sometimes has some good deals.
     
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  18. tj010480

    tj010480 What's a Dremel?

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    kk, I could wait a while and invest in 5850....
     
  19. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    I do think you will struggle a bit with a 5770 at 1080p. It does depend what your playing though - if its Source/Blizzard games then you'll be alright.
     
  20. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    Just one tiny little additional note. That motherboard is the smaller micro-ATX form factor. As you're using a big cooler, avoid getting RAM with big heat spreaders - the stuff you've chosen looks fine, but don't be tempted by the taller Dominator memory.
     

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