Cooling new water cooling setup

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  1. Link2425

    Link2425 What's a Dremel?

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    This is my first attempt at water cooling and after quite a bit of research I have decided to go ahead and get a danger den kit. Is there anything wrong with the choices I have made? I will be cooling the first machine in my sig.

    CPU Style: AMD64 754/939/940
    CPU Water Block: Danger Den TDX
    Top Style: Lucite - Clear
    Video Card Water Block: *NEW* Acetal MAZE4 GPU for the Nvidia 6800/7800 Series
    Chipset Water Block: None
    Fitting Size: 1/2 OD Fitting for 1/2 ID Tubing
    Radiator: Black Ice XtremeII - Black
    Fans: 2x Sunnon 120mm Fan w/4-pin molex
    Peltier/TEC: None
    Pumps: !NEW! Danger Den 12V CSP-MAG Pump with 1/2 OD Fittings
    Tubing: 10 Feet of UV Green 1/2" only
    Reservoir: Single 5 1/4 Bay UV Green Reservoir
    Thermal Paste: None
    Water Additives: None
    Hold Down Style: Standard Stainless Steel Hold Down
    Danger Den Fillport: None
    Misc: 20 Hose Clamps

    I am also buying some ocz ramsinks and a bottle of mct-40.

    Just wanted some expert feedback before I purchased. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
     
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  2. Link2425

    Link2425 What's a Dremel?

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    no one has any opinion?
     
  3. Doomsayer

    Doomsayer What's a Dremel?

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    Why does it say "Thermal Paste: None"...?
    Dont you think you should use some Arctic Silver 5 or something?

    Using a shroud on that radiator would also help. It's not difficult to make one from sheet metal.
     
  4. biff

    biff What's a Dremel?

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    Well I gotta say something about those ramsinks. They really dont help in fact it would seem they hinder. This is based on the fact that the ram manufacterers use what appears to be double sided carpet tape to hold them on. If you installed them using arctic silver instead then you may bo on to something but I think its all for bling in the long run. I have some OCZ ram that I can't remove the sinks on or I void the lifetime warranty on them but they'd be off in a heart beat if I could. I think the biggest reason for the ramsink is for physical protection so the manufacturers can offer the lifetime warranty.
     
  5. stev

    stev What's a Dremel?

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    RoboTech just did a flow rate chart on some WC pumps.

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    If you're only cooling the CPU then the CSP-MAG should do alright. If you plan on adding other WC'ing blocks, the D5 would be the best bet. Even if you add cold-blocks later, the D5 can vary the pump flow speed via the dial control for just the CPU now and then the other addition blocks later. See RoboTech's indepth review here ...
    http://www.systemcooling.com/swiftech_mcp655-01.html

    Danger Den has the D5 pump listed here ...
    http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=175&cat=0&page=1

    Also, read ALL of the reviews on that page's bottom. It's helpful. Another person built a 1/2" tubing loop with the TDX as well.

    Stev
     
  6. Hamish

    Hamish What's a Dremel?

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    just means the kit doesnt include any ;)
     
  7. Shadowed_fury

    Shadowed_fury Minimodder

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    Aye, I'm sure most people here have thermal paste lying about ;)
     
  8. LAGMonkey

    LAGMonkey Group 7 error

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    Arctic silver 5 on my desk as i speak.
    But about the WC set up. There isnt a need for the heat speaders on the ramsticks as they will just end up storing heat.
    Get some water adatives like "water-wetter" as they do help to reduce scale and other such problems. Also dont use tap water. I made that mistake and ended up having to clean out the system with limescale remover.
     
  9. Link2425

    Link2425 What's a Dremel?

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    Thats interesting. I never would have guessed that. I planned to stick them on with some artic ceramique(sp?). Is there anything that is a better choice for cooling the ram?

    I do have some thermal paste. More than I know what to do with.

    Thanks stev for that article. The pump is what I was most concerned with and after reading that review it looks like the D5 is the way to go thanks for the help.
     
  10. biff

    biff What's a Dremel?

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    I've heard from quite a few places the cooling the ram does nothing for getting a better OC. Is this the reason you want to cool them or for some other reason?
     
  11. Link2425

    Link2425 What's a Dremel?

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    Im going to put the sinks on my 6800gt. Since I am using the maze4 gpu block there will be no cooling on the ram at all. I know you dont need to cool system ram but cooling graphics ram is a must. Is it not?

    Other thing I was looking at pumps again and I came across the Danger Den DDC-12v. Is this a good pump? It appears to have more head pressure than the D5.
     
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  12. biff

    biff What's a Dremel?

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    Ooooohhhh... ramsinks for your video ram, ya thats a good idea. Funny I have those ramsinks on my 9800pro and I didn't pick up on what you were refering to. I have the copper ones, and they come with frag tape on them, seems to work pretty good. Nice little units.

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    Hey whats up with the dangerden store site anyway? Its been down for like a week, they still in business? I wanted to order my CSP-MAG from them but I couldn't so I had to get it directly from C-Systems.
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    Link2425 What's a Dremel?

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    That is odd that you cant get in. I have had no problem all week.
     
  14. biff

    biff What's a Dremel?

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    I just tried now. Still not working.
     
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    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    biff What's a Dremel?

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    I've tried a bunch of different links, through google and other sources and none work including the one you just posted. :confused:

    It would seem like I'm the only one with this problem.
     
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    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    Hmmm...........very strange!
     
  18. biff

    biff What's a Dremel?

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    Indeed. But AFAICT it is the only site that I can't access. Must be a sign.
     
  19. Fibbles

    Fibbles What's a Dremel?

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    Do you have a router? If you do, try accessing the site without the router (unless the router is required with DSL).

    I wasn't able to access Performance-PCs.com, and while I was on the phone with Comcast, the girl (whith a hot voice no less) suggested I try it w/out my router, and it worked.
     
  20. stev

    stev What's a Dremel?

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    Link2425,

    The DDC has 3/8" fittings. So, you'll need a pair of reducers to use the pump with the 1/2" ID tubing and parts being used. The D5 is your best bet to work in your 1/2" loop.

    If you have not ordered your parts yet, you could go with the 3/8" cooling loop and use the DDC. If you have ordered the parts, the the D5 will work well in the cooling loop.

    DDC = 3/8" fittings
    D5 = 1/2" fittings

    Peace!

    Stev
     
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