1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

News Nintendo apologises for Wii Fit

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 19 May 2008.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

    Joined:
    3 Apr 2007
    Posts:
    11,343
    Likes Received:
    292
  2. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

    Joined:
    20 Nov 2005
    Posts:
    10,851
    Likes Received:
    804
    Anyone got the waaahmbulance number to hand?
     
  3. johnnyboy700

    johnnyboy700 Active Member

    Joined:
    27 May 2007
    Posts:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    18
    Huh, I already guessed it was a poor judge of fitness when it told me I was a stone and a half overweight (I ain't by the way) but I always knew that the BMI isn't a definitive measure anyway. Its already well known that it can't account for bone density or heavily built individuals. I mean take someone who is a bodybuilder, they will have a lot of weight for their size and age but a simple BMI measurement will interpert this as being a lard arse.

    However the notion of people being distraught over this, come on get real!!! Some folk need a good bitch slap over some of the this things they come out with.
     
  4. badders

    badders Neuken in de Keuken

    Joined:
    4 Dec 2007
    Posts:
    2,635
    Likes Received:
    72
    I just made everyone in the office look at me strangely when I let out a really loud involuntary laugh at that!
     
  5. StephenK

    StephenK Sneak 'em Upper

    Joined:
    21 Dec 2006
    Posts:
    291
    Likes Received:
    2
    This was bound to happen though.

    BMI really isn't suitable for this sort of thing as it is a statistical measurement for dealing with large sample sizes (whole populations). I don't know of any other way they could get Wii Fit to work but this was always gonna be the big problem. BMI isn't suitable for people with stockier builds because it doesn't take frame size into account so they'll be considered overweight even if they don't have a lot of body fat. As it was designed for average adults (and it doesn't even suit most races/cultures) leading sedentary lifestyles, it's unsuitable for children and teens, athletes and bodybuilders,pregnant or nursing women, people over 65, people who exercise regularly.... the list goes on and on.

    The number of people who can play the game and get an accurate fitness measurement based on BMI is going to be a small fraction of the people who actually use Wii Fit. Besides, Body Fat ( and thus 'additional' Weight) and Fitness are two separate issues so maybe the game should have been called Wii Fat?
     
  6. scrumble

    scrumble New Member

    Joined:
    18 Jan 2004
    Posts:
    135
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm not fat, I'm big boned. Beefcake. BEEFCAKE!
     
  7. mrb_no1

    mrb_no1 Pie Eater

    Joined:
    15 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    394
    Likes Received:
    1
    bmi is the most inaccurate, outdated concept ever concieved by whoever thought it up 30 years ago or whenever they did. I'm a weightlifter and according to bmi i have been over weight since i was 18 because i lifted weights, i have 16% bodyfat right now but measure 29 on the bmi, thats 4 points more than i 'should' have but it doesnt bother me because after my first testing it has been explained to me. That is the one major advantage of what has happened though, hopefully more people will be aware of its generalisation and choose to ignore it, too many people who will by wii fit to get fit would be put off by recieving such poor results, atleast maybe they have a chance to learn and understand.
     
  8. shigllgetcha

    shigllgetcha Come at me bro

    Joined:
    3 Mar 2008
    Posts:
    2,031
    Likes Received:
    87
    BMI only works with people that are fat and want to find out are these actually obese
    its blatently obvious that a well built (mussely) person isnt goin to be obese, same as a skinny peson the same height as a well built person of the same height is obviously not going to be the same weight

    % bodyfat is more accurate as far as i know
     
  9. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant New Member

    Joined:
    5 Jan 2006
    Posts:
    1,334
    Likes Received:
    36
    if you are clueless enough to assume that a wiiboard (which is essentially a slightly clever pair of scales) , can tell you how fit you actually are then...... meh
     
  10. Tomm

    Tomm I also ride trials :¬)

    Joined:
    12 Apr 2004
    Posts:
    2,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    BMI is not ideal but it's from "the most inaccurate, outdated concept ever". It's just a ratio between your height and weight, and if you understand that there's no problem. For > 90% of people, having a BMI outside of normal limits means you're overweight - 'fat' if you like. Like everything, there are exceptions to the 'rule' (people with a lot of muscle, children, pregnancy etc) and you have to take into account that the rule is not for everyone. Unfortunately the general public seem unable to understand this, maybe Nintendo didn't explain it very well.

    Didn't this start because some 11 year old girl was told she was fat and had a hissy fit? Well there's two things wrong here 1) children do not fit into the normal BMI limits, 2) a lot of children these days ARE fat, this girl was probably no exception. Having said all that, this is a computer game that tells you you're fat almost as soon as you turn it on - nice move Nintendo.
     
  11. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

    Joined:
    8 Dec 2006
    Posts:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    10
    that gave me a weird idea... maybe require to not be fat so it lets you play, basically have the game tell you to go out and do sports until your not fat anymore:D

    (no, I'm not really being serious)
     
  12. yuusou

    yuusou Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Nov 2006
    Posts:
    2,098
    Likes Received:
    324
    *pokes* at least they admit their errors! not to mention it was in the manual.
     
  13. Major

    Major Guest

    Why doesn't it let you put in extra options i.e. how much you can lift on a bench press, this is if you do weights for example.

    But for the majority of the British public, who have not done weights, if you have a high BMI, it's because you are fat, period.
     
  14. Veles

    Veles DUR HUR

    Joined:
    18 Nov 2005
    Posts:
    6,188
    Likes Received:
    34
    It's not really nintendo's fault, go to an NHS hospital, they'll weight you, measure your height and tell you exactly the same thing, it's just a flaw with the BMI system. You'll know if the BMI system is wrong for yourself.

    Pretty retarded of the gamers really, surely there are disclaimers?
     
  15. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

    Joined:
    15 Feb 2004
    Posts:
    12,574
    Likes Received:
    16
    You know, it's really not that bad of an idea.
     
  16. scarrmrcc

    scarrmrcc New Member

    Joined:
    12 Nov 2007
    Posts:
    64
    Likes Received:
    0
    who is buying this game, that is fit?

    isn't it kind of a given that if you are buying this game (and care if you are fat or not) that you would be overweight?

    " i work out 5 hours a day, and am totally fit, i am going to buy wii fit, to make me fitter"
    yeah.....right.
     
  17. fev

    fev Industry Fallout

    Joined:
    13 Aug 2003
    Posts:
    0
    Likes Received:
    20
    i've got friends who are "fit" who bought the game for the balance games and the fact it's a bit of a laugh to play anyway.

    sooo scarrmrcc, plenty of people
     
  18. mikeuk2004

    mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool!

    Joined:
    3 Sep 2004
    Posts:
    3,293
    Likes Received:
    11
    Anyone who buys this as a fitness tool is just stupid anyway. Marketing it as a fitness tool is just wrong, people are idiots and believe it.

    Its a game and toy, not fitness.

    Please excuse me while i put on a fitness video and jump up and down on my bathroom scales untill they break and tell me im 5 stone. :)
     
  19. Major

    Major Guest

    QFT
     
  20. johnnyboy700

    johnnyboy700 Active Member

    Joined:
    27 May 2007
    Posts:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    18
    I didn't buy it as a fitness tool, I bought for the fun factor of the balance games and considering how much fun they are I'd say it was money well spent.

    Although I will say that some of the yoga poses are quite tricky and the advanced ones can be quite challenging.
     
Tags: Add Tags

Share This Page