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News Nintendo cancels European Wii U TVii launch

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  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Gareth Halfacree, 16 Feb 2015
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    Isn't this the same licensing that both Apple and Microsoft have so far failed to negotiate in Europe at least as far as MS goes and USA + eu for Apple.
     
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    Ah you have to love all these rules and regulations. Keeping us safe, ensuring we have the best content and that its value for money. It's a good job there isn't things like VPNs which let you see what other people get.
     
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    Number of TV network / language combinations in Europe.

    Is a larger than:

    Number of Wii U customers in Europe prepared to pay Nintendo for TVii

    By a huge amount!
     
    Guinevere, 17 Feb 2015
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    Read: YouView already does this exact same thing, but it's not in-house so we can't milk it with our own adverts, and will throw our toys out of the pram rather than giving people the same functionality as other devices in a way we can't control directly in order to monetise.
     
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    I'd settle for flash (player), it's not a bad browsing experience on the wii u thanks to the touchscreen.
     
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    Separate licensing per country in digital distribution needs to be banned asap.
     
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  8. rollo

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    Why would any broadcaster agree to ban one of there main sources of income? Take Top Gear its resold in 30 different countrys around the globe. Its about the only reason the bbc has not gone bankrupt over the years.

    What did sky just pay for premier league rights £5bil or sumit? they will make 4-5 times that on resale to european and world markets.

    People might not like it but its a big business thing. And the harsh facts are if Apple can not get the licencing deals with its mega billions in the bank then what hope does Nintendo have.

    Look at the xbox one in the uk the entertainment bit will remain half finished if they can never agree the tv deals (BSYB will never let them use the xbox one for what it does for american football just is not gonna happen) . In the States its alot different to europe and rest of the world.
     
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    There is no way to justify why for example netflix has to negotiate the right to show you movies once per country.

    The solution is trivial, content owner negotiates once with each shop how much they get per copy sold / streamed and the result of that negotiation is then valid no matter in what country the shop decides to sell.
     
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  10. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Sadly, that wouldn't actually work. Let's say that the rightsholder has a new-release film it's licensing to streaming services. It might want £2.50¹ per stream for the first two weeks. That's fine in the UK, where the PlayStation Store or Blinkbox or whatever will charge £6.99 to stream the film; not so much in Afghanistan, where the average individual income is $426 compared to £26,500 in the UK. Basically, if you're setting the world-wide wholesale price at £2.50 and not per-region, you're setting the price at 0.1% of the average UK employee's monthly salary and nearly 11% of the average Afghani employee's monthly salary. Assume that the streaming service would like to make some profit too, so double the wholesale for retail and your UK streamer can watch the film for 0.2% of his monthly salary while the Afghani streamer would need to invest 22% of his in two or so hours of entertainment.

    Yes, having different prices and release dates between the US and the UK is stupid (once you've taken VAT into account, anyway) because of their relative fiscal parity; when you start looking outside the first-world bubble, though, you realise that perhaps region-dependent pricing isn't such a daft idea after all.

    ¹ This figure pulled from you-know-where for illustrative purposes.
     
    Gareth Halfacree, 19 Feb 2015
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