no smoking please

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  1. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    The only thing I hate about smoking only applies to certain people, that is when they just throw cigarette butts on the floor, it looks extremely untidy and when you have smoking points and literally piles of the things being built up over a day it annoys me.

    Obviously the same applies to littering.
     
  2. specofdust

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    This is actually an issue that's been addressed in the two major Scottish cities. On the spot £50 fines are given. Interesting that on the spot fines for littering and theft (IIRC) are lower. But anyway, there need to be more bins that are capable of having ciggy butts placed in them, those little things on walls outside pubs etc. too. Also, the only problem is, realisticly, with filter tipped cigs. The other ones degrade to nothing in very little time.

    I agree that folks who throw their cigs on the floor are just plain rude though. On the rare occasions that I smoke I always stick the butt in a suitable bin, and I really dislike it how people just flick them anywhere (just as I dislike how people spit out chewing gum or drop their crap under their car before driving off).
     
  3. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    You gotta admit, chewing gum's a lot worse in that area, it's nearly permanent once it's trodden in. Like you said though, it's just certain individuals and you'll always have the option to pick it up yourself or give them **** for doing it.
     
  4. righteous_slave

    righteous_slave I know what a bloody Dremel is

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    That's just being bloody rude, be it smoke, benzene, halitosis, or even your favorite bubble gum. And it's just as rude to assume that everyone else has to cowtow to what you want. I would love for everyone to quit smoking. It is unhealthy, it does stink, it takes away numerous resources (individual's money, land to grow tobacco) from more productive uses. But I'm not going to force them. The government shouldn't force them blatently or subtly. They should be allowed to make the choice. Almost everyone I work with smokes. THey stand at the big bay doors and smoke, back by my desk. Do I demand that the company ban smoking within 20 ft of the doors? No, I find something else to do somewhere else. The price of having personal rights is giving them to everyone.
     
  5. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    There's £80 on the spot fines for that now though
     
  6. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    I thought the redefined cigarette butts as litter, which also carries a fine?
     
  7. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    But there's no enforcement on it for some stupid reason.
     
  8. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    I'm sure that if the police saw you doing it they'd have a word with you, same as with chewing gum or indeed any form of litter. Other that that we come back to my original point of it all being moot without anyone present to enforce it.
     
  9. Veles

    Veles DUR HUR

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    Filter tips are what the vast majority of people smoke though, but yeah it would help if the provided more buns with metal plates on the top for putting out the ciggies. It depends what city you're in really, I've noticed Bristol has plenty of bins in the main shopping area, but go a few metres down the street and they all but disappear.
     
  10. specofdust

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    Yup, you really need them on every bin and imo you want to be putting some of the wall mounted bins outside places that people are likely to be smoking near. While some would whine about the cost I'm sure the ammount that is made from fines would more than cover it, since, at least in Scotland the enforcement officers go specifically after smokers, ignoring people who litter (just more smoker persecuation crap I suppose).
     
  11. Ramble

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    I agree with you (somewhat). That's why I've stated in my previous arguments that they're mostly rubbish and don't hold up correctly.
     

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