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News Nokia planning Indoor Positioning

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 24 Sep 2008.

  1. Tim S

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  2. ChaosDefinesOrder

    ChaosDefinesOrder Vapourmodder

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    while gimmicky, I can definitely see a real world application for this in places like supermarkets - it's frustrated me many a time when things get moved around in stores so the thing I'm looking for is the other side of the store from where it used to be!

    Seeing as it's Nokia and their most recent phones have data matrix decoders pre-installed on their most recent handsets, the stadium (or theatre) side of things could have the seat position encoded on the ticket, then read off on the handset to give directions tied in with this system...
     
  3. whisperwolf

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    I can sort of see this turning people's homes into a sort of old text based adventure game

    "you are in YOUR LOUNGE. There are exits to the north (kitchen), east (hall). you see a TV, xbox and a snarling monster (Mother in Law)."
     
  4. theevilelephant

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    hmm, im guessing something using fixed wifi signals and digital building map as a sort of gps system?
     
  5. will.

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    Finally, I will never get lost on the way to my bathroom ever again!
     
  6. ChaosDefinesOrder

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  7. mclean007

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    I hope it's better than the GPS in the N95 - my N95 8GB is absurdly slow (up to 2 minutes) to lock on, even in open outdoor spaces. It will rarely lock at all if I'm moving, which is really frustrating, as I have to stand there looking like a proper plum waiting for it to lock before I can get on the move. Normally keeps locked on once it gets a lock though. How do you find yours Gareth?
     
  8. Gareth Halfacree

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    Mine's pretty good - sub-30 second lock, although that's with A-GPS and network assist enabled. Interestingly, I've noticed that Google Maps has a better time getting a lock than Nokia Maps - to the point that I'll often load Google Maps so that the GPS cache has an entry in it before exiting and starting the Location Tagger application.

    Mine's the 8GB, too - which firmware are you running? 20.0.0.16 (from memory) introduced some GPS fixes, and there's a new one out (30.0.0.something) - dunno what that offers, though.
     
  9. Langer

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    Nuh-Uh... I brought my light.

    Personally I wouldn't give you 1 zorkmid for this technology.
     
  10. mrb_no1

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    just to add to what gareth and mclean are talking about. A mate of mine had a n95 and gps was turd until firmware updates and nokia software updates were applied, it then became a very usable tool that considering it was a mobile phone imo rivalled dedicated sat navs in cars.

    i use googlemaps on my iphone3g and provided signal is strong from 02, then it works really well, otherwise it suffers from a delayed update.

    as for the news, nifty app but will feature limited use until loads of buildings have been added.

    peace

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  11. metarinka

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    nifty app I could see it's uses for things like malls and college campuses that have large buildings with many floors. Not too hard to coordinate this with other phones so that you could find your friends at a party or bar.
     
  12. Cupboard

    Cupboard I'm not a modder.

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    I can see a problem with multiple floors but this could be really useful. If you were in a shopping centre around lunchtime, and the phone "knew" you hadn't had lunch then it could start showing special lunch offers :)
     
  13. Gareth Halfacree

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    It wouldn't surprise me if location-sensitive advertising was what Nokia had in mind when it talks about "commercial tests" in Helsinki.
     
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    I kinda doubt this would take the approach of, where an item would be located in a store. Even if the store owners got the service of adding their inventory in for free, (customers tagging); they wouldn't want it as most stores spend way too much time/revenue in organizing their stores to optimize impulse buys.
    Kinda the same way the app for the new android os "go cart" can help to locate an item your vicinity by just looking at a barcode with your camera, in store location probably wouldn't be viable. While, finding the store this way, and pricing can be extremly helpful, in store directions just don't seem to be very helpful, other than say a superstore that might tell you what area to find it in, ie apperal, organics, beer/wine.
    But I do like the ability to find other phones, ie track the kids down. Also would be very helpful for finding what side of the mall to park on for easy access to store "X".
    Or casino mapping to find where slots are, bathrooms, showrooms. Or even large convention centers to find the "blue" room would be helpful as well, but then that's what the employee lackeys are for right?
     
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    I wouldn't permit the mapping of my buildings if I were a business owner. I'd half-hazard a guess that many others wouldn't, either.
     
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    Interesting. Why, pray tell?

    I'm thinking here specifically of shopping centres - which, in every one I've been to, have a floor plan posted at regular intervals. I'm also thinking of airports, which also have floor plans posted around the place. And universities, which... you get the idea.

    I'm curious as to exactly what sort of business you're thinking of running where hiding the layout from the customer is a good idea. Casino, perhaps?
     
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    Our hospital has a working version of this called Versus. All the sdtaff, the patients, and even some of the equipment have tags that can be tracked by IR sensors and there are boards in the nurses stations so at a glance you can see that Dr. Smith is in the supply closet with nurse Jones again. Honestly, I'm not really sure how useful it is as everyone carries internal cell phones and can ususally be reached immediatly on those.
     
  19. mrplow

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    as usual technology follows star trek
    'computer locate wife'
    'your wife is in the back bedroom with your brother'
     
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