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Graphics Nvidia 3xxx series thread

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by The_Crapman, 6 Jun 2020.

  1. knarF

    knarF Noob

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    I'm thinking of an RTX 3070 build, but how do I know which model I should go for? Do reviews tend to come out before the release (not been paying attention to hardware releases for a little while)? I'd like to get something built before Cyberpunk drops, so that doesn't leave much room after the 3070 releases.
     
  2. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    If it cost them $10 why would they bother? let alone thousands. Why would you as a company spend money to make Nvidia more money? surely that would be on them?

    It seemed to be for a while (fermi through Kepler) but then it fell off a cliff.
     
  3. Anfield

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    In the hypothetical scenario of having to pay separately for multi gpu I'd buy a £5 DLC for a game to get vendor agnostic Dx12 / Vulkan multi gpu support before I'd pay a subscription to Nvidia or AMD (for their proprietary multi gpu stuff).
     
  4. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    I'm more thinking £10/month to Nvidia to support SLI and have them support devs to impliment it...
     
  5. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    Unfortunately thats the way of the world. Its the same for software updates on phones.
     
  6. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Common knowledge. Samsung just suck and it's not going to get any better.

    They will just be Super cards. Obviously it will depend on AMD, but once they know they are back ahead after not knowing with 8nm Ampere they will go back to TSMC, increase perf, perf per watt, give us the Ampere we wanted and then the piss taking prices will go back to normal levels of piss taking.

    They will then drag that out for two years before releasing Hopper. So I hope AMD are finally starting work on their "scalable" Navi GPUs we were supposed to get years ago. IE, multiple small dies tied together with IF. Nvidia will be doing the same at some point also. That may be why they are trying this Infinity Cache. Or, that may be what stitches the GPU cores together, IDK. The monoliths will be gone within 5 years IMO. Along with the high failure rates, high cost and so on.
     
  7. Bloody_Pete

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    I wouldn't describe the third largest fab as something that sucks, not as good perhaps.

    Also I think you're making out 7nm compared to 8nm to be a bigger deal than it actually is, going back to TSMC isn't going to radically improve things. Just go watch Debauers video comparing TSMC's 7nm to Intels 14nm node, they're actually very similar (mainly because Intel is more like TSMC's 10nm). They'll get better yeilds, but that'll just mean redeced costs for Nvidia and more availbility, nothing more...

    I think you have been sucked into the marketing for 7nm hype like a lot of the tech industry...
     
  8. Osgeld

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    Ya it's starting to turn out to be the bit wars from the 90's over again

    The Nm warz, do the math!
     
  9. Anfield

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    Yeah but 22nm++++++++++++++++++++ vs 22nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ just doesn't get the fanboy blood going like 7nm vs 14nm:hehe:
     
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    I mean, I don't know about you but that 7nm doesn't have ANY +++, so it must be worse!
     
  11. spolsh

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    Lower number, no ++++++, yep,GOTTA be worse.
     
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    Nah it's nothing to do with the nm. Ampere consumes an ungodly amount of power and the yields are crap. Those are the two main reasons I think it sucks. Nothing to do with the node.
     
  15. Bloody_Pete

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    Well thew first one has nothing to do with Samsung, that Nvidia's power envelope! And yields are what they are, its a new chip, it'll always be bad at first!
     
  16. David

    David Take my advice — I’m not using it.

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    Spinal Tap Cheesecake
     
  17. Anfield

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    Except the cold hard facts prove that the power is actually being converted into performance with better efficiency than the 2080TI, RX 5700 etc.
    Yields are confidential, so there is no evidence of them being crap.
     
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    I think we all know the main reason that you think it sucks.
     
  19. Vault-Tec

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    Sorry you will have to enlighten me?
     
  20. Anfield

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    Because you refuse to acknowledge the cold hard facts when they are linked to you.
    And because you believe unsubstantiated rumours about yields.

    Both of which are prime indicators of you being a blatant fanboy.
     

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