Thanks @BeauchN, good to see that Gigabyte have one straight out of the starting blocks. In know Asus also had a 4060LP, but can't remember if anyone else did pretty than those 2
Yeah pretty much. It's not that desirable. Basically a 4080 super? I imagine until either AMD or Intel get closer every Nvidia release is going to be like this, a leech profiteer's paradise. I pulled the trigger on a second hand EVGA 3080 for £320. The best brand that decided to leave the GPU market, why? Because they thought it was getting toxic.
Maybe, I think the SFF enthusiasts would love the challenge. Let’s face it who didn’t want to cram a 1080ti mini into an ITX build But that’s a pretty small segment of the market for them to be worrying about and they probably don’t want the hassle of people cramming them into LP Optiplexes and then complaining they died because they had no airflow.
I get that but they were full height, short length cards - I was thinking about the LP cooler trying to dissipate 180w of heat. Don't get me wrong, I would frickin love it if they managed it - I think this is where these xx60 cards really shine.
True, it would be interesting to see what the double slot LP cooler could manage though. Maybe we need someone brave enough to mod a 5060Ti to fit one of the gigabyte coolers and see what happens as a proof of concept
TL;DW: The 8GB 5060Ti is an utter joke. Having two 5060Ti models with different RAM capacities is intentionally deceptive by Nvidia, but they don't care because it will still sell. @b1g-d0g called it:
A few RTX 5070 Tis are available for the MSRP. I've seen the Palit and Gigabyte presently in stock for £729. At that price it seems a decent option for 4k, agreed? I'm thinking the 5070 is a bit disappointing and not for 4k and the 5080 is overpriced. The FE 5080 maybe, but it is rarely in stock and scalpers are doing scalpy things
5090s are actually starting to become available. I'm wondering if I should ditch the Suprim SOC and go for something else.
I've been having similar thoughts but reckon as demand dies down the card I am after will become available, though I would probably save 1k fitting a water cooler myself. Thought about buying a 9070xt just to tide my over whilst I wait.
Given the respective weights of CPU and GPU coolers these days, when are we going to start putting the GPU on the motherboard and the CPU on a daughterboard? Or, better yet, let's ditch the motherboard altogether and go backplane. The Altair bus is coming back, baby!
It’s pretty clear that the PCIe socket is becoming a bit of a weak point. Arguably we’re already past the point where the slot (and any shrouds, surrounds, etc) is mechanically sufficient to hold the weight of a modern GPU. GPU & case manufacturers wouldn’t supply support brackets if the socket (and case screws) alone were sufficient. But high-speed high-bandwidth interconnects are an incredibly complex engineering challenge, especially if you want to maintain signal integrity. Which, spoiler alert, you definitely do. Quite frankly, I’m amazed that we’re still using what is essentially a 22 year old socket design. Of course there will have been changes in board layout & design to accommodate the roughly 16x increase in theoretical data throughput, but the actual physical design of the socket and its contacts has, AFAIU, remained the same since PCIe 1.0. So far “workarounds” like vertical mounting and riser cables seem to be providing a good stop-gap measure. But surely it won’t be that long before riser cables become entirely unfeasible due to their effect on signal integrity. Even on “last gen” PCIe 4, you can already get myriad headaches if your riser cable is severely twisted/strained, poor quality, etc. And ultimately it just shifts the cost burden back to the consumer - I have to pay extra for a good quality riser cable, or indeed support bracket, if I don’t want a heavy GPU ripping the socket apart.
You're forgetting the best workaround: Bring back the desktop form factor! Can't have sag issues when gravity's just pushing your GPU further into the PCIe slot! (Well, you could, given that the weight is all off-centre from the PCIe edge connector. Need to move that further into the middle, or have a dummy edge connector on the far edge of 2/3-slot cards to keep it upright... or an actual connector, double your bandwidth!)
Oh no, I’m not forgetting it, I just hate it . You can pry my MiniITX sandwich build from my cold dead fingers! I have actually thought about a modern desktop case here and there. Trouble is they’re usually very small production runs, rather expensive, don’t have many modern features (cable management routing, cooling, etc), and don’t always have enough space for modern GPUs. I was tempted by Stephen Jones’ “Checkmate 1500+” PC cases, but they’re not great for cooling or GPU support. Plus the remaining stock is now only being sold via a German retailer, although I’m pretty sure he announced some new production runs for cases recently.
I'm considering a mini-itx sandwich case, currently have a Dan A3 in white mesh that I quite like the look of but something smaller does tickle the fancy. Already have a mini itx mobo, sff psu and stuff. The peerless assassin would have to go though, so I'm hesitating. In other news, did we see the igor's lab ting? https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...s-it-could-compromise-graphics-card-longevity Apparently another hotspot thermal issue due to the cramped nature of some current-related thing or other
This makes me laugh, asus Astral 5090 with asus gpu tweak 3 is now got a built in sag alarm to make sure the cards sitting correctly but the update is nowhere to be see.
Yeah I laughed out loud when I heard they came with accelerometers and everything I also caved and bought a super fancy white 9070 XT. Currently owning the 5080 and 5090 at slightly higher-than-MSRP prices and realising that I mostly play older and indie games anyway, I really can't justify the cost even with a 4K monitor. The 5080 isn't too bad overall cost-wise but the value is non-existent (and the one I currently own no longer fits in my case after downsizing); it's still working out at a base 5080 being 250 quid more than a top-end 9070 XT. And a top-end 5070 Ti being 150 smackeroons dearer. And I did want something white to match my build. And the Palit Gamerock fans on my current card sound like absolute trash at lowest RPM. Having said that I'm sure I'll be be back looking for a new card again when I decide the 9070 XT isn't strong enough a few weeks from now... Also FYI 9070XTs are going for cheaper than RRP on ebay already. Spotted the flagship Sapphire Nitro+ for 650.
The 18GB 5070 Super & 24GB 5080 Super will be along shortly. https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce...e-24gb-memory-rtx-5070-super-with-18gb-config
