In a mad fit of impatience waiting for a specific 5090, I have gone from buying a temporary cheap 9070xt to a 5070ti because it's a bit better to then buying a 5080 I have a problem, I could have just sat patiently with my 3080Ti.... but I wanted something better for the rest of my gear, watch now as I settle for this for the next 5yrs
I bought the cheapest 5070ti and sent it back. Cheaply built and you get what you pay for, coil whine, ramping loud fans that won't quit, and a couple of CtDs for good measure. £729 for that was a joke. The premium 5070tis are a wallet melting additional £200, depending. I'll stick with my 3080 until it settles down a bit more
I read there wasn't a whole lot of oc headroom on 50 series. If that's true, the extra vram won't make an ounce of difference to performance until something calls for more memory than the older card has. I suppose they could unlock a few more SMs but, given the piss poor generational uplift of the 50 series, I can't see an SM bump making a massive difference.
Will help hobbyists using AI LLMs or ML stuffs. The jump from 5080 to 5090 is a bit ridiculous unless you happened to get an FE at MSRP.
From what I’ve seen so far, it seems like 16GB VRAM is a good standard for at least the next generation or two. At least until the next generation of consoles brings vastly improved VRAM capacity, and game developers start to really push up against the limits of what you can hold in 16GB VRAM. My 4070S only has 12GB, but any bottlenecks I’m likely to encounter will be on the CPU side - it’s paired with an i5-12400F and DDR4 RAM. Right now the bottleneck I’m immediately concerned with is heat . My second display is a portable monitor that takes its power from the PC’s USB, and last night it kept cutting out while I was playing Subnautica: Below Zero. CPU & GPU temps were toasty, but well within “acceptable”. But the ambient temperature in the room was around 27-28C and the radiant heat from the area around the IO shield was insane… That can’t be good for all the circuitry in that area - you know, really important stuff like VRMs and USB controllers…! Time for the mesh side panels to come off again. Maybe even time to 3D print some extended feet so the lower exhaust fans aren’t blasting hot air at a desk that’s 1 or 2 centimetres away. Then again… I had the 3D printer running the other day before this heatwave really took hold, and it made the room incredibly toasty! Can’t flippin’ win!
Finally got my 5080 installed, coming from a 3080Ti the card seems decent, seems to be >50% quicker in most cases, so a decent bump for me, card is silent but blimey what a ridiculous piece of hardware, it's so big, mental, its a terrible thing to be putting in a PC case, the amount of heat it kicks out all over other components, its crying out for a water block, the exhaust for this card vents over the DDR of the PC, not good, this was already hitting 60C when stress testing stock without a GPU in the system. I have a DDR fan that I have yet to install which will help but with the heat coming up from below its sub optimal. The 5090 is going to ramp that all up by 50% definitely one for water, going to be a beast.
I spent yesterday morning looking at 5090s which were now available for sale and delving into several reviews. Plenty of top tier ones available... But the MSI Suprim SOC is in a class of its own for quietness, let alone its performance to decibel ratio. It even matches more expensive water AIO solutions. Back to playing the waiting game: I'm now 63 in the queue. The good news for me is that people's patience is really starting to wear thin, and that queue number is dropping a bit faster now as orders are cancelled for more readily available models.
It puts out comparative heat to the 3080Ti given the similar power limit, but I assume you're referring to the flow through cooler design? With the larger cooler you're trading off lower GPU temps for more heat elsewhere in your case as the GPU transfers its heat out incredibly well. They are hella big coolers though! Reminds me of the prolimatech unit I bolted to my old GTX 680 with 2x140mm thick fans. That was fun. The 5080 undervolts incredibly, 100% worth doing with zero or minimal performance impact depending on how much wattage you want to shave off. Can pretty handily reduce heat output by a quarter, maybe a third. Let me know if you want some numbers/assistance.
Same I just installed my 5080 as well. Hamza has been helping me tame it so happy to share the results I get over the next week. Seems like a lot of UV/OC headroom is being observed across the 5080s. Not heard of one that doesn't benefit. The 5080 has been reviewed as a poor uplift from the 4xxx which is fair enough for a 10%~ increase, but with the clocking potential it should be more popular for enthusiast clockers like us. Echoing what was said it is similar to a 3080ti in terms of heat that is getting dumped into the case. My old 3080 had a higher TDP than this 5080 although it handled it very well, such is EVGA. I'll say the 5080 FE fans have a nice noise to them under load, very inoffensive.
Yup this card is cool and quiet on air, I never ran the 3080Ti on air apart from a bench does it work check. but this is where a lot of heat comes out despite another few inches of card, doh ! My 3080 ended at the 5080 power connector and as it was on water didn't radiate much heat inside case. Not got around to overclocking anything yet, just spent loads of time having done a platform switch making sure everything is stable stock before getting started on that. But will be looking for tips on GPU, CPU and RAM tuning as there is clearly a lot more potential available.
Ah yeah that's the flow through design! Great for GPU cooling, great "fun" for your case trying to deal with it
I'll keep it as is for now whilst I wait for the Waterforce WB 5090 but if I find that actually this 5080 is enough power for me at 4k, it seems pretty strong in the games I have tried so far, then Alphacool do a water cooler for this card, I'll pick that up.
That's awesome. What is the spec of the rest of your system? The 5090 FE is a good upgrade for me as well, one day, as it still fits the Terra. It's a tricky proposition to have: small footprint + reasonable 4K performance + reasonable temps + not too loud + no watercooling! I'll share my current rebuild pics at some point. Today I am changing the CPU cooler from a copper axp90 47 to the Noctua L12s X77
Its all these bits I did not expect the mobo to have so much RGBs, I assumed it was stickers rather than LCD the 5080 is so big it covers a lot though The Alphacool will shrink the 5080 nicely to this, much nicer for the GPU and the DDR and to be honest the whole system once I close the case. Watercool and you'll fit any GPU in as they are all small board massive air cooler now
I did look at the alphacool blocks, they never arrived in stock for me to go for one though. That said I'm enjoying the silence of air cooling and the smaller case footprint a lot recently (that and the ease of swapping in/out new components - been through three GPUs in as many months!) so ended up giving all my watercooling gear to my brother. Maybe in the future.
I don't switch a lot generally it is fit and forget for 5 yrs or so but there are always quick disconnects. Air cooling rads is no different to air cooling parts, shouldn't be any noisier, it should be more consistent noise too when handling loads. Drawback is only price really but as with everything it is all about how you build it. I use a load of flex pipe looped so I can pull parts out like mobo, CPU without ever draining, not sexy to look at, not maximum performance, it's functional, but works for me, also means when I want to drain I just pull a part outside of case and drain.
Flex pipe? Like soft tubing? I used that for that purpose but the tubing itself is pretty thick and somewhat rigid. I was looking into pneumatic (?) fittings though, definitely interested in trying some of that in future. Bit more industrial but seems pretty sweet to work with.
Yup soft tubing, very flexible, perhaps too flexible, easy to kink on too tight a radius, I might also try quick connect next time I put a new block in.
Yup twiddled some knob's last night just to see what the score was and the card was doing 3.2Ghz and another 1k on memory which is a nice little bump, hardly impacted temps or noise, of course zero stability or gaming tests done but it happily smashed through benchmarks etc, having bought a cheap arse one I can't increase power and it stops at 400W like the 3080 nice potential in the card particularly with a modded BIOS and water, if I keep it that will be its future
