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News Nvidia may not be licensed for future AMD chipsets

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 24 Apr 2009.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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  2. JyX

    JyX New Member

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    This new doesn't surprise me... AMD announced it would re-enter the server chipset market.

    Second, these proprietary techs that nvidia has and they way they use them don't have in mind the best for its consumers.
    Not to mention support... they've killed it for nforce 2 which is very well capable to support current gen OS's and is limited just to old software support. Again, not the best form a consumer point of view.

    "Would you be sad to see Nvidia shut out of the AMD chipset market?"
    I for one, won't be!
     
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  3. knutjb

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    I don't want to see Nvidia pushed out because the more involved, the greater the innovation. Unfortunately, Nvidia has had a problem of biting the hand that feeds it. The question now is can it buy VIA to stay in the game or do they have another plan...
     
  4. Delphium

    Delphium Eyefinity enabled

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    Should be "If this does"? & "would leave Nvidia with support for old INTEL?? and AMD CPUs" ???

    Kinda a sham really, I have always been a fan of the Nvidia based chipsets.
     
  5. EvilRusk

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    Nvidia chipsets saved me from the horror of VIA chipsets! Compared to those they were awesome, although not without problems (like the ATA driver corruption issues, onboard "firewall" etc). Without a doubt they invigorated desktop motherboard design.

    Are AMD trying for a more profitable license deal? Will Nvidia go crazy and start making their own CPUs?
     
  6. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    The rise of the CPGPU? NVidia may only have to bung some x86 instructions into their gpus (assuming they have a licence for it).
     
  7. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    I'm not surprised. As much as I like diversity and choice nVidia has a tendency to abuse their tech (as already noted by JyX). I'll just use the SLI issue as the primary example. Also, AMD seems to have gotten a hang of doing chipsets after acquiring ATi, so they no longer have to rely on nVidia for that.
     
  8. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    ha awesome
     
  9. SubtleOne

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    Since the only SLI platforms are by nVidia (AFAIK), does this mean the end of SLI as of 2010?
     
  10. Guest-23315

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    Don't think so... IIRC X58 etc. has it built in so no need for nvidia..
     
  11. JyX

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    Most likely they'll make it public license to allow its vga branch to continue to sell.
    Or they might allow AMD and Intel to buy a license and not keep it to themselves or use it as a "trade" argument.
     
  12. Zero_UK

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    Hm not good. Nvidia needs to stay in the market. Personally I prefer them over ATI despite there lazy rebranding a series twice.. but without Nvidia its just ATI = No competition. = Charge what ever they want like what Intel are doing with CPU's - AMD is only starting to the dual core standards.. never mind quads or i7's and were left with cpu's from a £250 - £1000 - so quarter to a grand.. thats a lot of money for a chip. Why is it that high? because they can. People want the top systems and intel are the only one there.

    Guess if nvidia goes ATI could be cheeky and in there drivers make it so it runs crap on intel chip sets then AMD ATI rules the world? lol
     
  13. tejas

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    Zero UK is correct. I personally would only consider either excellent Intel chipsets or Nvidia chipsets. We need Nvidia chipsets to keep Intel and AMD honest about prices. It's quite obvious that if Nvidia exit the chipset business, that no one in their right mind would by a crap AMD chipset, when the excellent Intel X58 is around and the upcoming affordable P55, not to mention the great FSB chipsets like X38, X48, P45.

    Garbage AMD chipsets with their supbar southbridges do not impress me nor will it impress the masses given the choice between that and Intel excellence.

    Nvidia chipsets were the only reason for me to consider AMD CPUs at all for my next rig. Instead it will be Intel CPU all the way in the future for me with Intel or Nvidia chipsets if they are allowed to make a chipset for Core i7 and i5.

    Enthusiasts (and even AMD fanbois) will be all the poorer if Nvidia are forced out of the chipset market...
     
  14. biebiep

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    Intel doesn't want nVidia competing in the i7-chipset range for a plethora of reasons.


    But seeing as most i7 sales have probably originated from performance systems, my guess is that they are afraid that nVidia's chipset might not have the QPI max frequency problem(222mhz bclck) or offer lower multipliers/better tweak options.

    This would certainly give nVidia's chipset more leverage than intel's and seeing as Intel wants to sell more of those 965/975 unlocked chips, even MORE OC potential for the lower $ processors wouldn't do them any good now would it? :p


    @ The guy above me:
    The P45 is the chipset that matters now for the soon to be EOL LGA775 and the X58 is mediocre at best. Intel's engineers knew it wouldn't allow bclck's higher than 222 to be stable and they didn't do anything about this. There hasn't even been a respin, just so they can sell more Xtreme editions...
    I'm confident that if x58 was that superb chipset you're cranking it up to be, i7 wouldn't have to hit a wall at 222.

    Not to mention that AMD's integrated graphic chipsets rule supreme. So plz, less smooth talk about intel and more facts about both Intel& AMD plz :)
     
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  15. knuck

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    too bad, i like my nForce 750aSLI
     
  16. UncertainGod

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    They haven't made a decent chipset since nForce 2 so who really gives a crap?
     
  17. JyX

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    too bad, I don't... nv's 700's were plagued with data corruption and stability issues... and not to mention the poor material fabrication.

    I would never recommend an nv chipset unless I knew I'm dealing with a fanboy, in which case I wouldn't have any other choice.

    And no... Zero_UK, isn't right. He got confused... it's not THE MARKET... it's the CHIPSET market... they won't go out of business for this... nv will continue to produce gpu's even if they lose the chipset licenses!

    Anyhow, whateva with the "We need Nvidia chipsets to keep Intel and AMD honest about prices" like nv has EVER sold anything at a fair price!

    AFIAK, they're mApple... just green!
     
  18. Goty

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    I've used the VIA KT333, nForce2, nForce3, nForce4, and the ATI 790FX chipsets and really never had a complaint about any of them. The nForce3 was probably the weakest of all of them, but I haven't been pushed away from any particular manufacturer.

    That being said, NVIDIA's recent lack of respect for its customers has soured me on the brand as a whole, so I'm not too upset about this news.
     
  19. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    Part of the problem. nVidia don't have an x86 licence, and the chances of Intel granting them one is about as likely as pigs flying after some of the stuff nV's CEO has said recently.

    ...

    I liked my nForce2 board (and SoundStorm - why did they kill off the only decent integrated audio I've heard before Azalia came out) and nForce 4 was good; nForce 3 didn't really live long enough for me to form a solid idea on that... but since then the chipsets have been a bit... flaky. At least on the Intel side; hot, SATA corruption and all sorts of fun. I've not had the pleasure of the latest AMD-compatible nVidia chipsets.
     
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