News Nvidia may not be licensed for future AMD chipsets

Out of all the motherboards I've used I've only ever had issues with my nVidia-based motherboards. Don't know if I should chalk that up to coincidence...

 

yeah it's karma huh.. and they are going to be reaped this year- intel comming in from the back- take out the knees.. amd from the front- nvidia mouth wide open

 

It's completely irrelevant whether nVidia acts in a profit maximising way - of course they do, every company does and it's just good business. The point is, if you take away a significant competitor, the capacity for a manufacturer to control the market increases.

 

No, it's not! You can't act for profit unless you are the market leader and have a significant market share enough to have influence of the sales! If that's not the case and you only care for profit, you cheat on your clients... which implies a low moral standard and such a company should never be supported, unless people like to be ripped off!

And I can disagree with you on that for profit thing... AMD for example held the 999 bucks CPU a few years ago... a 5-something FX. Now, it's Intel who has the 999 bucks CPU... that's because AMD became 2nd and Intel advanced with their C2, i7 platform. This left AMD with a significant lees market share... and people were screaming that AMD will go bankrupt! The only way to increase the VALUE is to think for the consumers. Give the people good products at attractive prices that won't burn holes in their pockets and you'll get it... bit by bit, With PH/PHII, 700 series chipsets and HD4000 they started to recover.

How or why is nv a "significant" competitor?... it's the smallest of the 3... it also drove VIA out of the K7 and K8 chipset business.
From what I've seen... if people wanted AMD and Crossfire they went for a Phenom platform with an AMD chipset... if they wanted the best gaming rig and SLI or Crossfire they went for C2Q and an Intel chipset. Only fanboys and curious people opted for nv chipset ... some regretted. And if nv would have been that good, Intel's chipsets wouldn't have been so successful.

As to the controlling the market thing... it's already in place and no one is affected. We can live without nv in this market.

 

To the last line...Maybe YOU can live without Nvidias competition in the chipset market but are those of us who welcome it.(particularly SLI users) If that is your logic then I am quite happy to live without AMD chipsets and CPUs and still enjoy more performance for my money by going Intel.

I am not denying that there have been issues with Nvidia Intel chipsets, but in my experience at least (I run two XFX 780i boards and one DFI nForce 9400 board) and I have had zero issues with them. Maybe that is due to Nvidia fixing the issues with new BIOS's and drivers but they have been rock solid and I run all 24/7.

Actually FYI there is a market for Nvidia chips as evidenced by Apple using Nvidia MCPs across their highest selling products like Macbook and iMac. Nvidia Ion is gaining traction as well and is definitely a hard launch so its a little premature to celebrate Nvidia's demise just yet.

 

"still enjoy more performance for my money by going Intel."
That's the thing... you're not. More performance, yes... for your money, doubtful.

"Apple using Nvidia MCPs"
Some have to cut deals... others don't need to. And AFAIK, nv and mapple have been friends for a long time.

"Nvidia Ion is gaining traction "
Where?... in Imaginary land?... lots of companies were impressed... only few jumped on board. FACT!

"its a little premature to celebrate Nvidia's demise just yet. "
You're really stubborn, aren't you?
It's not about the demise of THE company... just their chipset department.
And I can celebrate that... wanna know why? THEY GOT NO LICENSES!

 

You can, take a good look at Apple.
(I'm not taking a shot at Apple here, just making a point. I happen to like a lot of their stuff, just not willing to pay the extra they demand.)

 

Nobody will miss NVIDIA chipsets. They sucked bigtime, which most people can agree on. Some stubborn people will claim they had no issues with NVIDIA chipsets and that is fine.
But that is not the issue at hand.

NVIDIA lacks a complete platform because they got no x86 license and that nags them a lot.
Intel, AMD and VIA can provide a complete x86 based computer platform. NVIDIA has to borrow from the other three. See the problem?

NVIDIA could push ARM more though, give Microsoft a clue that ARM might be the future instead of x86. If nobody bothers to push it, it will never happen. The MID segment can work with ARM and some sort of NVIDIA mGPU setup though.

 

I have no troubles with my nvidia 780a what so ever. The only reason I even bought the board is because the cpu's were cheap and still has a good performance status and it came with a mGPU and has the SLI and Hybrid SLI technology. It also supports the new AM3 cpu's that have recently hit the market. I dont want to see nvidia to leave the chipset market but if no licence then no licence. If you want to have the SLI technology then get one of the new Core i7 motherboards. Most are SLI ready and CrossfireX ready. The only thing holding me back from those boards is Intels high prices. You do get a performance gain but I dont think its work the extra 300 dollars for the board and 250 for a cpu.

I think AMD will be losing a big part of their sales with the loss of Nvidia. I could be wrong but time will tell.

 

I agree, all the dealings I had with 680i and 780i systems were horrid. Overheating northbridges, memory compatibility issues, useless overclocking, buggy BIOS revisions..... bleh.


Nvidia passed it prime around the S939/NF4 days.

 

I havent had any overheating issues with the northbridge on my board. Maybe its just the board you guys were using that had insufficient cooling.

I also thought this was about Nvidia and AMD and not Nvidia and Intel? Or am I not reading the title correctly?