News Nvidia reveals RTX 2000 series

It's no different than what Apple or any business does. They slowly push the prices up year after year, defining the new "normal" price.

 

Seems like Nvidia are milking the miners and forcing gamers towards their game streaming service.

 

Also doesn't help that AMD is struggling to compete at the top end so Nvidia doesn't have to be 'competitive' price wise so to speak?

 

So it's hardware few people can afford, tied to software some people don't want to use, and is going to be used sparingly, what could possibly go wrong.

 

Hopefully everything!

The market badly needs a shake up and really short of these cards not selling well (which is unlikely considering the wait and hype) we are waiting on AMD to bring something that truly makes Nvidia rethink their strategy. Unfortunately I honestly can't see it happening anytime soon.

 

Ok...Can we just have a show of hands for who is on for one of these then?

 

NVIDIA is doing the stupid once again. Announces pricing at $X. Sets FE version price to $X+200, official reason being so it won't compete with board partner cards. Board partners say "our cards are better than FE version", so they price it above FE version price.
GG NVIDIA, you did this with 1080, and you repeat the same mistake once again.

 

It was widely (and correctly) rumoured that nvidia was going to jack the prices on the new cards, to protect the Pascal line from heavy discounts. Mass returns from board partners due to lack of demand (after misjudging the mining market) means they have a mountain of previous gen and we get to pay for their error.

I'd say vote with your wallet and make em hurt, but fools willing queuing up to buy them as usual.

 

I think you throw around monopoly far too easily. Every Intel chip has a gpu in it. Nvidia has no monopoly worries - no one cares that the PC has a gpu as part of or separate from the CPU, just that it has a gpu and can do what you'd expect a gpu to do.

As for Intel making stand alone gpu's to compete - do you really believe they are up to it, this is the company that is having trouble innovating CPU's and that's their core market?

No with this new architecture Nvidia is basically competing with themselves - no one else is going to even have ray tracing till 2020 at the earliest. AMD is the best bet, but they lost all gpu focus to get Ryzen out, they are a long way off. Even then it's not as if AMD is having much success outside of mining - look at the steam charts, there's barely any recent AMD cards being used.

Hence they can charge what ever they can get away with, although in Nvidia's defence their is a ton of r&d in these new chips, and the chips are huge. The 7nm shrink is what we need to make them cheaper. I'd also say at least they are innovating - real time ray tracing is huge for games. They could have done an Intel and abuses their dominant position to do pretty well nothing to years.

 

Real time ray tracing is an imprecise benchmark really.

If you only have 10 rays to trace then sure you can do that in real time! Will it look good? No.

I guess the argument goes that this is real time 'equivalent' visuals to pre-rendered ray traced visuals (but obviously no where near Pixar movie levels)

 

So in June Huang said no new GPUs 'for along time'. Two months later they launch a new generation, with multiple dies ready right from the start. Isn't that illegal?

 

Lol why would it be illegal.

Prices are crazy like

 

Because he clearly lied.

 

Depends what he meant by 'long time' or how it was interpreted by the audience he was addressing.

 

Or it's a product that does what I want at a price I'm comfortable paying.

If you think it's 'too expensive', then don't buy it. Nvidia are not forcing you to, after all.