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News OCZ RevoDrive X2 uses 4 SSDs in RAID

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Claave, 29 Oct 2010.

  1. Claave

    Claave You Rebel scum

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  2. jaggyman

    jaggyman What's a Dremel?

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    Surely this is going to end up with a similar poor review to the original, apart from it being faster and even more costly. I got the impression that a drive with no TRIM support because of the RAID configuration was a a major downer already?

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  3. StoneyMahoney

    StoneyMahoney What's a Dremel?

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    If you're considering an SSD RAID, that implies you're expecting large bursts of uncompressed data to arrive from somewhere. If that premise is correct, I can see a way around the TRIM problem during large sequential writes - configure the Sandforce controller to keep acquiring and compressing data until it has an entire block worth of pages to write, allowing it to skip the read-modify-overwrite protocol and just do an overwrite instead. Or am I way off base here?
     
  4. Redsnake77

    Redsnake77 Useless Idiot

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    Exactly. Without Trim, whether it be onboard or M$ pulling their finger out with an update for Win7 what's the point?
     
  5. rickysio

    rickysio N900 | HJE900

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    SF controllers don't suffer that much without TRIM, and background garbage collection was sufficient. IIRC AnandTech did an article proving this.
     
  6. mi1ez

    mi1ez Modder

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    No TRIM, I'm not interested.
     
  7. M7ck

    M7ck Ⓜod Ⓜaster

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    Yeah I like a nice piece of trim too...........
     
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    r3loaded Minimodder

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    I think SandForce does garbage collection on its own, but I'd still like to see a bit of TRIM anyway. Why's it so hard to make a RAID controller that can pass on the command?!
     
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    740 MB/s or 1.02 GB/s is nothing special. In fact it is rather pathetic result when compared to other PCI-Ex SSDs like for example GM-PowerDrive-LSI. True it is more expensive at 1100 Euro for 240 GB or something around that, but it offers hardware RAID setup & support (0/1/10(1E)5/6/50/60). You get 1500R/1400W MB straight out of the box. Just like OCZ product it is purely enthusiast oriented. And for many enthusiast $$$ are not an issue. They want the best/fastest/powerful/etc.. and so on... Why would you want to pick RevoDrive over GM-PD-LSI?

    I think that PCI-Ex based SSDs are in general misguided. In servers in particular slots on motherboard are usually a premium thing, you can't afford to waste them. In home, as most users don't waste time on quad-SLI or something like that you can plug one PCI-Ex SSD, but it is very controversial investment. Better way is to buy hardware RAID card (like for example Areca 1261ML). Connect 4 SSDs in RAID 0 for 1200MB/s+ transfers and lighting speed boot drive (and if you expand on-board cache to 2GB you will get even better results) or 4/8/12/16 SSDs in RAID10/6 for best of both worlds (speed and fault tolerance). It is more expensive solution than one PCI-Ex SSD in short term, but you can easily expand size of storage space later with new SSDs, you won't lose data if you go for RAID10/5/6. RevoDrive falls short when compared to such setup.

    And the most funny thing is that with older (and much cheaper) Indilinx/Barefoot SSDs you won't be too far off from results achieved by SF based SSDs. Hardware RAID0/10 on SSDs is bloody fast!
     
  10. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    but for normal use 1 ssd is plenty be it an c300 SD-1200 or M225 type ssds

    raid on ssd is only useful for high data rate usage or server loads and only with Sf-1200 ssds as gc works well when trim is not around, I never recommend raid with ssds under normal/gamer/workstation use (unless your doing loads that required high data rate or server type loads that that stress an single ssd)
     
  11. steve30x

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    I thought Intel introduced Trim to SSD's in raid with their High Speed SATA driver in may.
     
  12. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    only operates in single disk mode only (when up-to-date drives are used in SATA, ahci or raid mode with an single disk) you can have 1 ssd and 2x hdds in raid, the ssd would still have trim support as long as you do not use 2x ssd in raid.
     
  13. Phil Rhodes

    Phil Rhodes Hypernobber

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    This sort of thing is extremely nice as your boot and programs drive, and as a place to put your scratch file. The improvement in performance is absolutely mindblowing.

    No, it's not worth it for a gaming rig, which is why I question Bit Tech's interest.
     
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    Shame it's OCZ that makes this cos it will be flaky and the support terrible if it's anything like it's other products...
     
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