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Osama Bin Laden Dead

Discussion in 'Serious' started by Volund, 2 May 2011.

  1. eddie_dane

    eddie_dane Used to mod pc's now I mod houses

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    Snooky is Sarah Conner? "Snooky Conner"
     
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  2. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    If Skynet is going to begin anywhere, it's at Google. They have ALL the data!

    hey, so long as she releases the porn video...


    I'll be leaving now :worried:
     
  3. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

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    Al Qaeda has confirmed the death of Osama bin Laden and vowed to launch revenge attacks on the US and its allies.
    A statement posted on jihadist websites warned that happiness over the terror chief's demise would soon be turned on its head.
    The group described itself as a "curse" on America, promised bloodshed and also called on Pakistan to rise up in revolt.
    An audiotape purporting to be of bin Laden speaking a week before his death is set to be released shortly.
    The authenticity of the statement is not possible to confirm independently but it was posted on sites known to be used by the group.
    It said: "We stress that the blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is precious to us and to all Muslims and will not go in vain.
    "We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries.
    "Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness. Their blood will be mingled with their tears.
    "We call upon our Muslim people in Pakistan... to rise up and revolt to cleanse this shame that has been attached to them by a clique of traitors and thieves ... and in general to cleanse their country from the filth of the Americans who spread corruption in it."
    The announcement paves the way for al Qaeda to name a successor to bin Laden, with his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri the most likely candidate.
    The confirmation followed claims by US officials that it had been planning an attack on the U.S. rail network to mark the 10th anniversary of 9/11.
    The plot was apparently uncovered as US agencies went through information seized from bin Laden's compound after he was killed in a raid by Navy Seals.
    "We have no information of any imminent terrorist threat to the US rail sector, but wanted to make our partners aware of the alleged plotting," Department of Homeland Security spokesman Matthew Chandler said.
    The idea - outlined in handwritten notes from the compound - was to tamper with a the track so that a train would fall into a valley or from a bridge, according to a joint FBI and Homeland Security bulletin.
    However, there was no indication from the intelligence whether further plans were drawn up for the scheme or if steps were taken to carry it out.
    Fox News cited a source as saying the plan was more aspirational than concrete and mentioned services in New York, Washington DC and Chicago.
    The source said the evidence taken during the raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on Monday considered the possibility of targeting a train travelling at 500mph - a speed that no locomotive in the US is capable of reaching.
    Details of the alleged plot emerged as Pakistan's army broke its silence over the raid, acknowledging its own "shortcomings" in efforts to find bin Laden.
    However, military chiefs threatened to review co-operation with the US if there was another similar violation of Pakistani sovereignty.
    The army statement was in sharp contrast to the initial response to the raid by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, who had hailed the operation as a "great victory".
    In another revelation likely to further strain ties between Islamabad and Washington, CIA agents reportedly watched bin Laden from a safehouse in Abbottabad after his compound was discovered last August.
    US officials said intelligence-gathering was so exhaustive that the CIA asked Congress to reallocate tens of millions of dollars to fund it.
    "The CIA's job was to find and fix," the Washington Post quoted one US official as saying, using special forces terminology for locating a target.
    "The intelligence work was as complete as it was going to be, and it was the military's turn to finish the target."
    A Pakistani intelligence official has said that one of bin Laden's wives claims she had been living in the compound for six years.
    The Yemeni-born woman - one of bin Laden's three wives currently being interrogated in Pakistan - did not say whether the al Qaeda leader had also been living there since 2006.
    UN human rights investigators have called on the US to disclose the full facts surrounding bin Laden's death, in particular whether there had been any plan to capture him.
    They said in certain exceptional cases deadly force may be used in "operations against terrorists" but "the norm should be that terrorists be dealt with as criminals, through legal processes of arrest, trial and judicially-decided punishment".
    Bin Laden was unarmed when shot in the head by US commandos.
    The White House's shifting story of the attack has raised doubts about US assurances that special operations forces were prepared to take him alive.
    An opinion poll of more than 5,000 people surveyed in Pakistan shows that 66% of respondents do not believe that the person killed by US Special Forces was bin Laden.
    The YouGov poll adds that three-quarters disapprove of the US operation and over half think it will result in "further violence against the US".
    In New York on Thursday, US President Barack Obama visited Ground Zero to honour those killed in the attacks on the Twin Towers.
    Today, Mr Obama will travel to the Fort Campbell US army base in Kentucky to meet members of the Navy Seal team that were involved in the operation.
     
  4. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    We all thought it... :worried:
     
  5. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    Absolutely not.
     
  6. Xir

    Xir Modder

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    That's what I meant...

    it was the temperatures.
    or the rotor-design.
    or an aerodynamic problem caused by a nearby wall.

    ..no way it could have been the armed guards on the roofs, naah, they couldn't hit a hovering helicopter 10m away with a buzzbomb, naah. :D
     
  7. smart201

    smart201 What's a Dremel?

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    you know what until i see proof with my own eyes the guys dead im not gonna believe the crap i see on the TV
     
  8. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    So... The lack of a "Oh, guys, I'm actually alive" video isn't proof enough that he's dead?

    Are you really so desperate to disbelieve the government?
     
  9. leveller

    leveller Yeti Sports 2 - 2011 Champion!

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    It was a lie that took us to war. War isn't the equivalent of fiddling a hotel receipt for a dodgy expense claim. Why so trusting?

    smart201 is right in the sense that just because someone says he's dead, doesn't make it true. What if they are interrogating him? No one has provided any evidence he is dead, so couldn't that be a possibility?

    I don't know if smart201 is suggesting that Osama will be making appearances in public ...
     
  10. Xir

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    The best quote was from Pakistani newspapers vendors...
    "well it's the third time I sell newspapers that say Osama's dead...I'll believe it when I see it"
    :D
     
  11. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Considering there's been no massive evidence to the contrary, I think anyone doubting Osama has actually been shuffled loose of the mortal coil is quite mad.

    Quite mad, and either so desperate to disbelieve the government that they'll happily just ignore anything that proves them wrong - Or, and this is a big or, have fallen off the fine line of not trusting the government implicitly, but taking them at their word when no significant evidence crops up to counter their claims.

    Considering your other posts, smart201, I don't believe you're the latter.
     
  12. tristanperry

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    If proof was released, you might then say "Well it's probably a fake"?

    The fact that everyone - including Al-Queda - have confirmed it shows he's dead.
     
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  13. smart201

    smart201 What's a Dremel?

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    why would you believe them,after all look at the under the table spending of our/tax payers money!!

    you really think they care about you and me, give me a break:wallbash:
     
  14. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    Get your scuba suit on. :hehe:

    In all seriousness, why would you believe a photo released by the U.S. government? You're unwilling to take their word that he's dead, but photographic evidence relies on you believing their word that it's not fake.

    You might as well admit that you want to believe in a conspiracy at all costs and cut the crap about believing when you see "proof".
     
  15. smart201

    smart201 What's a Dremel?

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    WHY DIDNT THEY BRING HIM BACK TO THE US ??????????????

    buried at see what a pack of bull+++

    you wanna believe the crap be my guest, i would if i had im a sucker tottooed on my forhead

    anwser me this do you believe them tossers in the houses of parliment really care about the public??????????????
     
  16. Krazeh

    Krazeh Minimodder

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    Why would they bring him back to the US? The reasons given for the actions they've taken are perfectly rational and make sense so if you want to put forward an alternate version of events you need to come up with something equally rational to base your view upon.
     
  17. smart201

    smart201 What's a Dremel?

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    in all fairness he is most likely he's dead,but even if this is true and he is dead it certainly wasnt the glossy ******** story you saw plastered all over the news the other day when he died if he really is dead.

    remember alot of the stuff you see is excuses just to carry out what the goverment really want's to do and have to gain public favour in order to carry out there real agenda.
     
  18. smart201

    smart201 What's a Dremel?

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    also answer the question please, do you believe the poor excuses for human beings in the houses of parlement????
     
  19. Krazeh

    Krazeh Minimodder

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    So what did happen then? What's your equally rational version of events?

    My trust in statements made by the government depends on what the statement is, how much sense it makes, it's rationality and what other verifiable information i can glean from other sources. It's not a simply yes I believe or no I don't believe.
     
  20. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Because bringing him back would be considered a desecration of his body by all Muslims (they have strict rules about how bodies should be treated). The US government has taken great pains to at least appear to have treated Bin Laden's body with respect for Muslim custom, to make it empathically clear to all Muslims that their beef was with Bin Laden, and not their religion.
     

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