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Modding Parts of a comp. in an UPS ?

Discussion in 'Modding' started by Linkitch, 29 Oct 2003.

  1. Linkitch

    Linkitch What's a Dremel?

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    I just got this idea, when I was reading something about APG, then I thought, if they can't find the HDD then they won't be able to bust you...

    What I was thinking, have your normal Windows HDD in your normal case, but the "cough cough" HDD's you would mount in the UPS itself...

    I don't have an UPS right now, but I definetly want to try this out...

    Idea and suggestions on how to do this, would be greatly appreciated...
     
  2. Fubar

    Fubar What's a Dremel?

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    but the cables going to the "cough cough" drives would still have to be out in the open....
     
  3. Linkitch

    Linkitch What's a Dremel?

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    Yes that's correct, but I was thinking of taking the power cable from the UPS, and somehow take a bigger cord and gut it... Then add the power cable and IDE cable through the bigger power cord...

    Would this work ??
     
  4. mrplow

    mrplow obey the fist!!

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    Like........ why?!?!???!!

    Seems ridiculously over the top. If someone's going to the extent of entering your home and confiscating your PC equipment, they'll probably keep going until they find it.
     
  5. Linkitch

    Linkitch What's a Dremel?

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    Well, I was thinking more in the lines of LAN parties...
    Also you would have to add somekind of "safety device" o when you would take out the power cable, you would "pull a switch" which would cut the cables...

    Maybe im just talking too much, but I still want to try it out when I get ahold of a UPS...
     
  6. Pflumingo

    Pflumingo givem the bird.

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    Why not use a USB2 interface to the drive then, I have a UPS with a USB link, and it wouldn't look any different if I changed that cord to go to the USB interface box (like in the external drives) then apply power through the output inside the UPS, and voila, external drive mounted in a UPS, without the IDE problems, or the power problems.
     
  7. GNU rider

    GNU rider What's a Dremel?

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    actually, i think the best solution for hiding a "*cough*cough*" hdd is to build a mini system that resides on the LAN and not your system, but have that mini system hidden under the floor or in the ceiling, just someplace really remote, and if you really want that undetected, go wireless with it.
     
  8. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit Modder

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    Someone must have lots of porn :D
     
  9. lazychook

    lazychook What's a Dremel?

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    *lots of illegal underaged midgit porn :naughty:
     
  10. r3Q

    r3Q Minimodder

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    ok guys. if you really want to not get busted. go emp with it. just hook up some kinda magnet with a casing. mount some kinda CO2 can inside it. and when you hit the remote button, the CO2 pops the magnet shield off and frys your HDD, you will know it works when your computer turns off.

    dont try to hide it. because they *will* find it. illigeal material is not an accepted thing. espically if they know you took it. :nono: and.. they have little brief cases that they plug the bare HDD into. they can test it on site with their own computers.
     
  11. metarinka

    metarinka What's a Dremel?

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    I believe modern hard drives aren't magnetically sensitive, they have large neodymium magnets to power the swing arm. This would be kinda cool in a spy movie type of way. probably the best way to destroy the hard drive would be to either have a small amounts of explosives to totally destroy the disks, or sand paper that would come down and scratch it to bits. MI6 I hear powderizes their spent hard drives
     
  12. RaptorLord

    RaptorLord What's a Dremel?

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    the magents in hdd's are actually quite small nowadays (ask Dansdata) and the range on their field isn't very far reaching... if you want proof, I'll stop by with a bulk tape eraser and you can prove me wrong :D
     
  13. Dogg

    Dogg What's a Dremel?

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    eh, nothing wrong with a well placed sledgehammer blow :hehe: but yeah, hiding it for the purpose of not getting caught.. not gunna work.. but for sheer cool purposes... hey, why not.
     
  14. Linkitch

    Linkitch What's a Dremel?

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    Well, since you are all so full of good ideas, why dont I just have a small acid pool inside the case, so if apg would drop by, I would just dump my HDD's into the acid and there gone... :blah:

    About the EMP thing, just think of this scenario...
    You are sitting at a lan, one of your friends brings one of his friends and shows him my case, the friend comes over to my case and asks "what's this button for?" 2 sec later the whole system is dead... :duh:

    But okay, if it would even work, how much does such an EMP thing cost nowadays ???
     
  15. Zeke_D

    Zeke_D What's a Dremel?

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    Hardware encryption from Core Protect, $160 U.S., same as the FBI uses, fast and seamless. When the government endorsed thugs come and take your PC, they will have jack diddly for data. They will only know what your ISP divulges which aint enough to prosecute. Damn shame it has come to this. Fair use law has been kiltered far - far from common sense.

    The body of copyright and proprietary digital law enforcement is in need of some serious tweaking to get things back in balance... might take a Tunguska event in Redmond and RIAA headquarters, but it will happen, it must. There is a Zen to all this madness and a balance will eventually be found. Currently, the crazy U.S. DMCA law is being pushed and tested in courts globaly. The loss of civil rights for the possibility of royalty collection by corporations is unacceptable.

    Hardware encryption is the best solution, IMO.

    Added benifit from the combo encrypt and protect card from Core Protect is NOTHING CAN CHANGE YOUR PC SOFTWARE, unless you let it.
     
  16. FearsomeMouse

    FearsomeMouse What's a Dremel?

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    Ok, chances are that i'm going to get flamed for this but what the hell...


    If you've got that much illegal traffic on your pc that warrents the authorities to go to the effort to come and arrest you then you really are stupid! I mean sure 99.9% of all pcs have something suspicious on them, but most of the time it's not enough to make people too bothered about it. When you've reached the point that it becomes a concern to law enforcement then you know you've gone too far!

    Even if you did destroy the drives / hardware encrypt them, that could mean that your up for charges of destroying the evidence and ect ect and more over confirm your guilt rather than deny it. Lets see now... they rock up on your doorstep and you say - what? hang on a sec, i need to dump my hdds in a bucket of acid? then you may enter? too bad if one of them smokes!! :hehe: :hip:

    I'm not claiming to be a saint, but when people go to the efforts to draw that amount of attention to themselves, then they're usually up to somthing malicious IMHO. Lets face it - we all hate ppl hacking into our systems, we hate spammers and we hate all the flaws that are all over the net from people and companies who exploit such weaknesses.

    Am I too idealistic? I'm going to shut up now so i can reflect on how much of a fool :worried: i have made of myself... :duh:

    That is all

    --FearsomeMouse
     
  17. JazzXP

    JazzXP Eh! Steve

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    I couldn't agree with you more... I was thinking exactly the same thing.
     
  18. fuzzball172

    fuzzball172 What's a Dremel?

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    I wonder how 'really' secure these encryption products are? i mean if i wrote the software i'd leave myself some kinda backdoor to get in if i had to...
     
  19. FearsomeMouse

    FearsomeMouse What's a Dremel?

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    its not quite as simple as that most of the time. most encryption software works on (or at least as i understand it) mathematical matrices, the factorisation of massive numbers (something serial processors can't do easily) and pseudorandom numbers to prevent these kinds of things happening. Anyways, if you have a production team of say 100 and the person who finds / dobs another employee trying to make the system exploitable gets a big pay increase or something like that would reduce the chances of the system being purposely flawed?

    There are some encryption sequences under linux that are open source - but people on the web are not able to crack them easily. - thats where most of my speculation is coming from...

    but you could be right. Governments are suspicious by nature - you just have to see the stargate tv program hehehehe :hehe:

    btw fuzzball - lov ur sig! I'm also dangerous with a soldering iron! :rock:

    that is all

    --FearsomeMouse
     
  20. taliban_raider

    taliban_raider Just some guy; you know

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    I agree it is stupid to draw this much attention ot the fact that you have illegal stuff. But the fact is if you took one burnt copy of ms (enter random microsoft title here) and waved it in fornt of thier face they would still prosecute they do care about swatting out pirecy on all levels. Sure thier not going to send in a sswat team for a pireted version of xp pro but they will prosecute if you get dobbed in. But seriously why dont you just get a mini removable hdd or even a cd and just hide it somewhere like inside your monitor I dont know if they would carack open a monitor for such things.
     

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