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  1. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    From Wired:

    Giving new meaning to clean energy, a New Jersey company is developing micro fuel cells for mobile phones and laptops using a major ingredient in soap.

    Millennium Cell of Eatontown, New Jersey, is working on hydrogen fuel cells based on sodium borohydride, a high-energy form of borate, or borax, a natural mineral mined to make laundry soap.

    When passed over a proprietary catalyst, a solution of sodium borohydride releases hydrogen, which is combined with oxygen in a fuel cell to generate electricity.

    Millennium Cell said it has developed several prototype systems for mobile phones, PDAs and laptops that are no bigger than standard battery packs, but deliver up to four times the battery life.


    Full story here

    It's the DAZ doorstep challenge! Does your washing powder create as much hydrogen as DAZ?! :lol:
     
  2. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Ok it makes water, but where does that water GO?

    Also, how do u charge them?
     
  3. DaSuperFly

    DaSuperFly What's a Dremel?

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    Straight into your pocket :D
    Worth it i guess!
     
  4. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    so it looks like youve pissed yourself? Nice.
     
  5. penski

    penski BodMod

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    Some variety of urostomy bag type affair?

    *n
     
  6. JADS

    JADS Et arma et verba vulnerant

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    Water cannon sticking out the front :D
     
  7. Ubermich

    Ubermich He did it!

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    I would make the battery slightly smaller and leave room for water storage... just pull out your phone and empty it every now and then... "Man, I'm thirsty... I sure wish I had some... oh, wait <whips out phone>"

    Although I think $1.50 for a recharge is a bit costly... even at a month of standby... I don't want to know how many times I've recharged my phone, much less how much money would be in someone else's hands if I had to pay $1.50 for every time :eeek:
     
  8. NiHiLiST

    NiHiLiST New-born car whore

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    Yeah, the recharge cost is the limiting factor with fuel cells at the moment. They can make cars that run on them and the only bi-product is water; which is fantastic. But they need to be filled with compressed hydrogen which I'm guessing uses a lot of power to compress and transport. And that energy comes from... oil/gas/nuclear power :sigh:

    It's an interesting subject though and could be a good thing for the future with a little more development.
     
  9. Ubermich

    Ubermich He did it!

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    /me wonders if it's possible to go water->hydrogen cell->water... theorhetically possible, that is...


    hrm
     
  10. NiHiLiST

    NiHiLiST New-born car whore

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    I'm sure they'll come up with a powerless way to harvest hydrogen from water or the air sooner or later. If they do it affordably then it should be good :rock:
     
  11. Ubermich

    Ubermich He did it!

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    see, that's what I was thinking about... if there is such a way, you have this cycle: water->hydrogen cell->power + water

    Not exactly cold fusion, but... :eyebrow:
     
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