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News Petition launched to save XP

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 15 Jan 2008.

  1. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg New Member

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    You may mock but lets face it by 2010 XP isn't making any money for the company you know the way business thinks, any thing making a loss should be dropped, so they can either kill the activation line or charge for it they may be polite and charge but realistically they'll probably just cut them off. TBH i doubt they'd cut off the servers they're probably running quite happily along side the vista ones and the next OS.
     
  2. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Or just make it so, once support ends, any and all copies of XP are automatically activated online, whatever the circumstances. No staff costs, any extra piracy losses will be negligible. MS have several times made things easier for the bad people to avoid upsetting the corporate customers; members here have commented on the ease of getting re-activated over the phone even when they've obviously broken the EULA.

    I've other software that needs activation; I'm far more concerned that those smaller companies may go belly-up and leave me in the lurch.
     
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  3. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    ...but ebuyer made me an offer I can't refuse in today's deals. I've bit the bullet and ordered Vista for the new system. :worried:
     
  4. completemadness

    completemadness New Member

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    Its not even that great a deal, The OEM version is horribly locked (crippled) to a PC, plus you only get the 32bit disc (the proper ones come with both i believe)

    When i was re-installing my PC i had to choose between vista x64 and XPx64 (both free through school) and chose XPx64 in the end, and haven't been upset really, plus Ive seen some of my programs saying "doesn't support vista x64"
    Maybe that's just me, but i did talk to a lot of people to help me decide, and it was marginally in favour of XPx64 for better gaming performance
     
  5. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    On the fence about this one
     
  6. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Win ME works fine. In fact, I'm using it right noe to type thins because I haven't gotten the cable service to my new place yet and I refuse to go buy another modem just to get dialup working under linux.

    Really, I don't care what MS does. They lost me with Vista's new "features" and I made the switch to linux. Technically I am set up to dual boot to XPpro64, but doing so requires finding a different keyboard and it hasn't been worth it. Yeah, I miss gaming once in a while, and there are some new games I want to try, but so far it just hasn't seemed that important.

    By the time games require vista I'll either get Cedega or Wine figured out, or I will go without.

    I'm also carrying around linux CDs to hand out to whoever wants one.
     
  7. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    The keyboard driver seems buggy.
    The similarity between Linux fans and Jehovah's Witnesses is duly noted. ;)
     
  8. Shielder

    Shielder Live long & prosper!

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    Oooo emma. Ouch! :nono:

    In about 5 years, when everyone is using a console for games, we'll be wondering "what happened to Microsoft"? Esp. when the only thing that seems to keep people using Windows is the Windows games...

    Andy
     
  9. Glider

    Glider /dev/null

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    We 'spread the light' as well... :D
     
  10. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg New Member

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    And turn up randomly at peoples doors.... like the TV licence people :worried:
     
  11. MilkMan5

    MilkMan5 Yeah man...

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    I really don’t think that will be the case, Microsoft’s main focus & drive for MS Windows is the corporate market.

    However, I do think that during the next 5 years, MS will face a lot more competition from different O/S’s, such as Linux and Mac.
    Consumers will have choices to play games on various platforms.

    I enjoy playing games on my PC, for me it’s better than a console. :clap:
     
  12. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    I take it you're still at school :) Or don't work in an office environment.

    Microsoft make their money, not in home systems, but in the business market.
    So even regardless of games, Microsoft will still be there providing Operating Systems and Office related software to almost every business on the planet.
     
  13. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    Sorry double post
     
  14. boiled_elephant

    boiled_elephant Whitelist Bit-Tech in your adblock!

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    I'm not done hating on Vista, so here are my latest reasons:

    1) Microsoft are making it mandatory, and they released it too early. I might sympathise if they kept giving us the choice until they had Vista running as well as XP, but as things stand it's like being force-fed a half-cooked meal.

    2) Versions. They release about 6 different versions of Vista, and don't even explain properly how they differ: when choosing, one must simply wade through that nauseatingly vague sales-marketing language they use, which makes every version sound like sugar-coated gold and fails to elaborate on why there's a £300 price difference between the lowest and the highest.

    Take it back and serve it when it's hot, Microsoft, and give us a proper menu while you're there.
     
  15. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    I've had Vista installed on my laptop on dual boot with XP for just over a week now.
    At first I wasn't sure, it just appeared to be XP with a shiny new coat.

    Once I managed to track down drivers for sound, which due to HP/Compaq's complete lack of support for anything but a brand new product made this a task and a half, all is now well.
    Ohh, and you have to switch off the confirmation thingie that pop's up asking you to verify every damned thing you do. Switched off after I found it hiding in the User account section.

    The sidebar feels part of the system, not just an add on, as does the live task-bar preview (which I don't really use)

    Overall I'm liking it so far, networking was easy, as was setting up wifi.
    Even mapping network drives was easier, as when you go to type in the network address it remembers your previously entered values from a drop down list and you just need to change one letter.
    It's these very small changes that make a difference.

    I like the breadcrumb view, but I do miss the UP button. Why not give us both?

    I booted back into XP after a week of exclusively using Vista and XP felt old, not slow but just dated.

    I'm still getting used to Vista, and if it continues to impress I'll be adding it to my main PC.
     
  16. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    good point, i should be able to just take a quick glance at it and be able to pick the one thats right for me.
     
  17. Shielder

    Shielder Live long & prosper!

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    Sorry Yoda, I left University 12 years ago:sigh:. I work in the Nuclear industry now :worried: and I've been instrumental in introducing Linux into the two firms I have worked for, not just for high powered number crunching, but also for the more basic office tasks. The businesses are slowly starting to realise that they don't have to pay through the nose for the OS and office package, when they can have similar functionality for free (or nearly free).

    Throw in the security aspect of a Linux system, the ease of use, the possibility to have diskless thin clients booting off a common central image, centralised file storage and the lack of any Client Access Licenses for the mailserver, intranet server, print server etc etc, then you can see why Linux becomes so much more attractive. Throw in ISO standard document formats and the jobs a winner.

    Andy
     
  18. Woodstock

    Woodstock So Say We All

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    imo other then home basic, there all pretty much the same
     
  19. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    It's depressing anint it :)

    Linux or Unix have been and will continue to be used in the server enviroment, but when it come to desktop end users the vast majority of companies use Windows and MS Office suite, companies will continue to pay license fee's so long as the support from MS continues.
    They much preffer to have a standardised system, that has all the software they need available on that OS, unfortunatly Linux doesn't offer that solution.
     
  20. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    It's largely been chicken & egg, companies use Win/MS Office because the new junior staff know it from college, the colleges teach Win/MS Office because that's what companies use...

    Open Office was too late on the scene to make a difference and "the possibility to have diskless thin clients booting off a common central image, centralised file storage and the lack of any Client Access Licenses for the mailserver, intranet server, print server etc etc" cuts no ice with the typists.
     
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