News Phantom Mode boosts broadband to 300Mb/s

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  1. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure there is. :p
     
  2. LordPyrinc

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    Facepalm... :D
     
  3. aron311

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    Haha I don't mind my exchange is about 150m away :-D
     
  4. aron311

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    PS. Loving the new site!
     
  5. dark_avenger

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    Would be useful here in Australia as pretty much all of our telco infrastructure is still based on copper.

    Makes scene to use both wires, current DSL only uses 1 wire
     
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    EDIT BUTTON!!!

    Kids these days... :wallbash:
     
  7. crazyceo

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    Can't really say I agree with you. I had Virginmedia bliss a few years ago and then moved house where I was only stuck with a BT line. I went from 20meg to 1.5meg if I was lucky and even then it was very unstable. Now I've moved back to an area where I can get Virgin and back in high speed bliss but now at 50meg.

    I know BT have got a shedload of government funding to help with the switch to fibre optic from the exchanges. Maybe they should have researched it a bit more and had a quick chat with Bell Labs?
     
  8. Xir

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    After the Berlin Wall came down, the city of Dresden was rewired in the most modern way, using fiber optics.
    Then DSL came along, but it only works on copper lines...and until today, they don't have any internet faster than ISDN unless using UMTS.

    Using fiber optics was (is?) just too expensive for the companies, installing an fiberoptic junction in every single house.
     
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    On the note of being to expensive to install fibre points to an entire city..

    I read about this a while ago, pretty awesome for the little city state.

    www.opennet.com.sg/

    Full fibre layout mmmm
     
  10. stephen.cooke

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    Alcatel-Lucent isn't the only one to achieve multiple 100's of Mb/s over the existing copper plant...

    Check out www.bondeddslrings.com. This one can do rural Scotland without ripping up people's gardens to install fibre.
     
  11. Culinia

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    That's all fine and dandy BUT
    To achieve full sync you will have to be close to the exchange!!

    On ADSLMax "up to 8Mbps service" max sync is 8128Kbps (8Mbps) with a throughput of approx 7.15Mbps (due to overheads)... I live 3.5km from the exchange (long line) and sync at 2112Kbps (1.75Mbps w/overheads) or about 26% of the maximum.

    So if 300Mbps is rolled out and if the same limitation is taken for me i.e. 26% then I would sync at 78Mbps which is obviously ALOT better (assuming it will work similar to this) but it is beyond the point as cable providers are at a stable 200Mbps DEPENDING on BANDWIDTH available across the pipe!!!

    IMO, fibre optic is the future so stop distracting yourselves in poor quality copper wire which is what? 100 years old now!
     
  12. Culinia

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    IN SUMMARY: Waste of time and resources. Invest in true future technology, fibre...not old 100 years technology.
     
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    I agree with all of you they should just forget about copper. However most of these companies don't want to spend the money to roll out a fibre network when they can just keep milking the current infrastructure.
     
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    There's not enough competition in most countries to force the big companies [mainly formerly state-owned] to splash up that much money to upgrade the infrastructure. Or if there is they want the smaller companies to pay their share and they just can't afford it so nothing happens.

    Either way: Europe is so far behind Japan it's not even funny.
     
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    When the telephone company was state owned, they connected everybody, no matter what the cost.
    Which is why even the loneliest farms have telephone, which again makes research for copper based connections rather interesting.
     
  16. crazyceo

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    I completely agree. I lived in Tokyo between 2001 to 2004 and by the end they already rolled out 50meg as standard and where pushing for 100meg. Now that was over 6 years ago and only now we can get 50meg via Virgin.

    BT sat on their hands for decades without any thought of updating the network. They made billions doing nothing and really only opened up to cheaper services when they were forced to allow competition. So since then, they have blamed the upgrades on lack of funding because you all wanted competition. Pathetic really!
     
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    In rural England my internet speed is pathetic, so any development that could make it faster is great. Compared to the rest of the world we're like still living in caves.
     
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    £15 for 24.5Mb download and 2.8Mb upload (I actually get it as well).
     
  19. Gradius

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    This is nice but it came far too late. The future is fiber optic with speed of 1Gbps, 10Gbps and by 2025 it will be 100Gbps (no kidding!).
     
  20. Gradius

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    Not anymore. China sells fiber uber cheap!
     
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