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Build Advice Planning ahead - Part the 2nd

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Jeff Hine, 14 Jul 2019.

  1. Jeff Hine

    Jeff Hine Nothing special

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    Pretty much set on using ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING for my impending upgrade, but - probably overthinking - finding it worrying that there's no QVL for RAM support w/ Zen 2 CPU's...

    What danger would there be in taking the RAM QVL for Zen+ CPU's as 'gospel'...?
     
  2. Vault-Tec

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    As I said in PM it is the same tech, only better. So yes, I would say you could apply the QVL from Zen 1000 and 2000 series and be OK.

    The reason B die is better, dude, is because it's well, better. I know with the 1000 and 2000 series it was very important to clock your ram to at least 3000mhz because Infinity Fabric runs at the RAM speed which made a big difference. Like, 20% over running 2133mhz RAM.

    I know that with Zen 2 they have increased the cache which apparently alleviates that problem but I have yet to see any concrete evidence. No one has tested it at slower RAM speeds, and I have a 16gb 2666 kit I wanted to use. If I find, however, that I have to buy RAM I will stay where I am at for now. Both rigs I have do what I want them to so it would be daft spunking money down what could be a expensive drain.
     
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  3. Jeff Hine

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    Starting to feel like settling for R7 2700 on X470... & - funds allowing - either 32GB RAM (over 16GB) or 16GB RAM & m.2 system drive
     
  4. yuusou

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    Why 32GB of RAM? Why m.2? How will you be taking advantage of these?
     
  5. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    My last upgrade was a 2700X, B450, 32GB of DDR4-3000, and a 1GB M.2 NVMe. It's pretty durn nippy, and 'cos I'm on a B450 board I can drop in a Zen 2 chip in a few years time for a cheap upgrade.
     
  6. Jeff Hine

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    Currently have 32GB DDR3... and m.2 - why not? Seriously, it would free up the current SSD for use on Grandsons' PC that I'm making w/ i5-4690K I have now.
     
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    M2's current prices make them very attractive as well
     
  8. Jeff Hine

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    m.2 may have to wait for another day.
     
  9. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Lunatic on the Grass.

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    Unless you actually need more RAM, why not go for 16GB plus an nvme M2 drive?
     
  10. Jeff Hine

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    That's the primo plan; just gotta see if funds stretch that far.
    Dunno I ever used the full 32GB I have, now... so 16GB makes sense.

    These two are definites... rest is still 'undecided'.
     
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    GeorgeStorm Aggressive PC Builder

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    You can always buy a single stick of 16gb with the option to add another in later if you need it. That's what I did with my current daily (but with 8gb sticks) and have yet to actually get another stick haha.
     
  12. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    The max version of that board will be out soon, probably best to pick one of those up with the increased BIOS size.
     
  13. Jeff Hine

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    X470... in Max?
    Will a single 16 perform any worse than two 8's (dual channel)...?
     
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    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I'm working with £400 for CPU, 'board & RAM - my guess would be that the MAX would kill the (already tight) budget
     
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    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    They're supposed to be replacing the current line up, aledgedly at the same price point.
     
  19. Jeff Hine

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    Prob gonna stick to two 8GB & swap out to two 16's (much) later
     
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    Biggest fear...? RAM fail/incompatibility & no RMA 'cos I broke the seal on the 'packing'...

    ... and for 'fear', read 'simmering paranoia'.
     

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