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Build Advice Planning ahead - Part the 2nd

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Jeff Hine, 14 Jul 2019.

  1. Jeff Hine

    Jeff Hine Nothing special

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    Might have to consider moving some of my old kit on... depending on how fast I want to do a water cooling upgrade. Might be a good idea to get the new kit I have working first. :(
     
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    The XE version may or may not be too fat to fit in the front of the Define C (dunno how big the cut out in the PSU shroud is), but yes, in general you can stuff a 360 rad in the front of it.

    Cheaper? If you want new this is basically the only game in town:
    https://www.ekfluidgaming.com/parts/

    The performance difference isn't all that big between alu and copper, so well worth considering for for those on a budget.
    There is however a hidden cost: As you should never ever mix alu and copper in the same loop there is effectively zero compatibility with WC parts from other brands.
     
  3. Jeff Hine

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    Just 'threw' some similar kit to the prev. linked list into a cart & it's ~£80 cheaper... :eek:

    Galvanic corrosion is not fun...
     
  4. Osgeld

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    its totally dependent on your skills, willingness, and time

    I can't say that X will fit Y out of the box but if the numbers match up you can make most things work, your thinking a 360 rad in a case that's got a OD of 440mm tall, case spec's say it can handle a front 360 with 144 thickness so add in fan fatness and do some math it will work, its just going to be tight

    THEN add in fittings and tubing and bend radius of said tubing, even soft tubing has a substantial radius and you end up with not impossible but not exactly a drag n drop situation

    as far as aluminum and copper... yes YOU should not do it, but its done all the time in AIO's (and cars and industrial) cause they have educated nerds not putting random crap though the loop, but for joe blow putting walmart distilled water though a loop with god knows what dyes and additives its not a very fun experience
     
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  5. Jeff Hine

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    AMD Bootkit - en route
    Small syringeful of MX-4 on hand ready to refit stock cooler, after BIOS updated.

    ... then I had a though; A/M cooler or stock (Wraith Stealth)? Looking at either Pure Rock or 212 EVO, if at all.
     
  6. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    The wraith is supposed to be not much to write home about, even a cheap aftermarket cooler looks like it lets a 3600 perform better.

    I mean it will do the job (ish) but it'll be hot and noisy.
     
  7. Jeff Hine

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    I'm trying to avoid 'spending money for the sake of it', even though it isn't a great deal... if either of the Pure Rock or 212 Evo are a no 'brainer' for so little money, then it'll be worth it.
     
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    When they popped on the cooler from a 3600x on a 3600 they essentially ran the same. (Edit: and that cooler isn't as good as the same named cooler with the 2600x as they've removed the copper slugged vapour chamber).

    The stealth is rated 65w tdp and so can throttle it but it will work. You can always try it and go with an AM later if you don't like it.

    Edit: Personally, i'll be picking up a 3600 but won't be using the stealth but that's just me.
     
  9. Jeff Hine

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    Just ordered a Pure Rock... many have said it's the quieter of the two.
     
  10. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Well if you want quieter it'll certainly be better than the stock stealth and will keep it cool enough to let it stretch its legs.
     
  11. Jeff Hine

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    tbf, I've not been able to get the stock AMD setup to a BIOS screen yet, let alone a useable machine, but stock coolers have never been something I've used for the thicker end of 15+ years.

    If my 'pie-in-the-sky' plans of a full w/c loop ever get past a wish list, it's not worth spending more than I have, now, just to bin off a costlier unit later.
     
  12. Jeff Hine

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    It just occured to me that a good target to have "Part the 3rd" done & in use would be my 60th birthday... plenty of time to get the (presumably) £1500 saved to build as whole new machine.
    Given that I've just got this current build up & running now, I think 6 years should be a good life for it.
     
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