Other Please don't ruin this one...

Can we put politics aside, for a moment, and wish the Prime Minister & his family the best, based on the latest news?

He may not be the epitomé of his field, but he is still a person; and I'm not disregarding anyone else who is/has been affected by this virus either... just that we show some degree of unity for him & his.
If nothing else, it brings home that no parent should outlive their children... despite how daft his old man is, he's still a parent.

 

Yes, even if for no other reason than to prevent Raab ascending to power.

Boris has spent how many hours banging on about social distancing and proceed to rub shoulders, back slap and handshake every bugger in sight. He an elitist, entitled ****. However, I don't want him dead. I do want him to suffer just enough to learn some genuine ****ing humility though.

 

Oh, well... that failed, immediately - shoulda known better than to post about this.

Someone lock this, NOW.

 

Seen all sorts last night and this morning, that honestly makes me disgusted to be alive.

He is a human being, put your opinions to one side and if you cannot just don't say anything.

Saw one post saying "hope his unborn baby dies from it, just like the future of my future children" and others saying they hope all tories die from it and this was all brought about because of "Brexit".

From what I have heard and seen, it's like Pneumonia but a hell of a lot worse and I have had a severe case of pneumonia years ago, had to have a HIV test because the doctors said they have never seen such a severe case in someone my age unless they were HIV positive, that worried me but I knew I wasn't HIV positive and when the test came back and proved it the doctors were stunned, I wouldn't wish it on anyone at all.

The people that I have seen posting stuff last night and this morning, need to wake up because how would they feel if it was one of there family members and someone started posting crap like that about them.

 

No it didn't.

If anything, not wanting ill for someone who you disagree with and whose past actions have caused you to dislike them shows the highest form of compassion.

I hope he and is family get through this, as i hope the same for others afflicted with the virus.

But for the love of whatever you believe, keep your bloody distance people.

 

I strongly dislike Johnson and believe he is fundamentally unsuited to the job of PM, as he so ably demonstated last year but, I don't wish him to be so ill.

Perhaps his experience will help to concentrate the minds of ministers, when it comes to making sure carers and NHS staff have the ppe gear they need to keep safe.

 

I dislike Johnson as a person and a politician, but I don't want him to die.

I lack a rather large amount of empathy in his direction, but I'd rather he survived.

 

I have no strong feelings either way, since I'm relatively apolitical. I care about Johnson as much as I care about anyone else as a human being, whether I agree with how he does his job or not, but he has behaved recklessly. His behaviour is akin to a policeman going into a school to warn of the dangers of drink-driving, all the while sipping from a hip flask. "Oh what's that, you crashed your car on the way home?"

You can't post a thread in general discussion with the proviso that only those who share your opinion may post. There are subreddits available for that sort of circle-jerk.

We'll close or cleanse the thread if/when it becomes toxic, but that clearly hasn't happened (yet).

 

Throw it into Thunderdome !

 

I actually have sympathy for the people who lead this country. They don't get much sleep and any achievement they manage is ignored. Instead, their failings are focussed on.

I wouldn't want to be in charge. Not with the miserable general public and media always haranguing you, usually with the benefit of hindsight..

 

On the other hand, they choose to enter politics and put themselves up for election. They must by now, have some idea what to expect.

 

There is that, to be fair.

 

Here is an opinion piece, written a few months before the pandemic, by a young doctor who directly attributes Johnson's policies to 5,500 deaths. He believes that, if Johnson were a doctor, he would be struck off and sent to prison for criminal negligence.
This raises a question - How many deaths can a privileged person in power be responsible for before they are no longer deserving of positive sentiment?

 

If this is the correct term for what I call 'politically agnostic', then I learned a new word... I don't like the current election system we have, so have little or no love of taking part in it; whoever gets into No. 10 is gonna get the sh!t end of the stick for the legacy of the previous incumbent until such time as their own 'way of working' comes to the fore - many's the time that a switch of party has meant that ungodly fallout has been 'their fault' because it was 'decided' a short while before said switch... sometimes that needs to be factored into some people's outburst before they voice them.

I said somewhere else, the other day, that the most thankless of tasks are the ones that many find the easiest to be unappreciative of... that includes being a political leader; this is a case in point:

Levelling this kind of claim is where any kind of system cannot be set in place because it draws a line in the sand that NO-ONE will ever agree over...

TL; DR is that wishing someone 'out of office' for the sheer hell of it is opening the door to all kinds of hell, because you have little or no idea that whoever comes next WILL do a better job...

 

I'm pretty sure a functioning equitable legal system draws that line in the sand at one.

Staying on the duty of care theme, apply that logic to Harold Shipman. Should we have tolerated his murders just in case the doctor who replaced him might have been more murderous?

 

Are we sure of that, has anyone checked the back of his head for a zipper.

 

Apolitical is to politically agnostic what atheism is to theistically agnostic. I just don't really care about it either way, and I don't feel I have the power or inclination to make a difference.

 

I didn't mean 'how many deaths are acceptable?', I meant what the system was that was seen as the causal contributor to them...

 

I accept that we have a political leader of the country, but whoever they are is just the same as the one that went before, just that sometimes the 'flag' is a different colour.

 

Read the article. The doctor defines it as dying while waiting to be admitted to hospital due to cuts in the healthcare system. Cuts, without which they would have been admitted in a timely fashion. It's pretty cut and dry.