Build Advice Please Give Me Advice [My First Build]

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by NewbI, 9 Feb 2010.

  1. NewbI

    NewbI What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    9 Feb 2010
    Posts:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    CPU :
    # Intel Core i7 920 D0 2.66GHz Socket 1366 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor - £199.74(Aria)

    Mobo :
    # ASUS P6T SE iX58 Socket 1366 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard - £140.85(Ebuyer)

    Ram:
    # Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz XMS3 Memory CL9(9-9-9-24) for i7 motherboards - £135.00

    OR

    Patriot Viper Extreme Performance 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Triple Channel Kit (8-8-8-24) £118

    Case:
    # Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Mid Tower Case - No PSU - £25 (Ebuyer)

    PSU:
    # OCZ Stealth XStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm Fan (Ebuyer)

    Harddrive:
    # Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM (£61)

    DVD/CD:
    # Samsung SH-S223 22x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA 3 Bezel Drive - Retail Box & Software (£18.38)

    Graphics Card:
    # Radeon HD 5770(£124.54 Aria)

    Extra:
    # Fan - £5-10

    Budget: £700 - 800
    Overclocking: Yes (Later On)
    USE: Gaming + Video Edits

    1. Is everything i need above?. Will i need any more fans?(Case includes 1 120mm fan). Wires? Anti Static Strap thingies?.

    2. What improvements would you suggest?

    3. Is it possible to save some money in any way with minimal effect on performance?.

    Thanks :thumb:
     
    Last edited: 10 Feb 2010
  2. tonpal

    tonpal What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    27 Jul 2008
    Posts:
    621
    Likes Received:
    32
    Replace the PSU with a good quality one. Corsair, Enermax and Seasonic are all reputable manufacturers. 800W is probably a bit more than you need. 650W should suffice.

    The 4850 is a bit of a lightweight graphics card these days. Maybe a 5770 would be a better option unless you have the budget for a 5850.
     
  3. LeMaltor

    LeMaltor >^_^

    Joined:
    3 Oct 2003
    Posts:
    2,103
    Likes Received:
    27
  4. trig

    trig god's little mistake

    Joined:
    10 Aug 2006
    Posts:
    2,853
    Likes Received:
    44
    data cable? power cable? unless he gets an oem mobo that will be included in the kit (data) and the psu will have sata connectors...

    Never heard of hi-power, but that probably tells you all you need to know. so listen to tonpal and grab a reputable brand. i always recommend corsair. great quality and usually much better price over enermax. in fact, it looks like there is now a modular 450 watt version out, the hx450. that would be more than enough power for what you are looking at.

    what rez are you gaming at? anything larger than 1680 x 1050, or even that rez with eye candy on most games, a 4850 won't cut it. you will need at least a 4870/5770 or higher.

    the blue series is meh, but i guess if you are looking to cut costs, it will work. otherwise, look at the f3's like lemaltor said, or the wd black's

    if you really want to cut cost, and the video editing usage wont be to heavy or demanding, go i5-750 with an 1156 socket mobo. watch the ram kits as some of the dual channel ddr3 is specifically for amd (read-needs volts higher than 1.66)
     
  5. NewbI

    NewbI What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    9 Feb 2010
    Posts:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Will 650W be enough if i decide to overclock the CPU in the future?. Will changing the power supply make any difference as the one i have chosen is cheaper and has some good reviews on ebuyer.

    Ok changed to 5770.

    Ok changed the harddrive. Thanks
     
  6. PureSilver

    PureSilver E-tailer Tailor

    Joined:
    16 Dec 2008
    Posts:
    3,152
    Likes Received:
    235
    You don't need anything like 800W; you could get away with 400. I would take the Corsair HX450W if you like modular neatness, or a VX550 or similar. The ModXStream Pro 550W is highly recommended by Bit-Tech and you will certainly not need more power than that. The necessary wires will be boxed with the motherboard; you won't need to buy any. You don't need an anti-static strap either as long as you're careful to earth yourself before touching components (touching the case will work fine).

    I would make that graphics card a 5750 at the very least. Otherwise it makes more sense to drop down to an i5 system to free up more cash for graphics and that case etc. A 5770 would be preferable. You need a CPU cooler also. Yes, the retail processor is supplied with one and no, it's not acceptable. I would go;

    CPU: Intel Core i7 920 D0 £199
    CPU Cooler: Titan Fenrir £32
    TIM: Arctic Silver 5 £6
    Motherboard: Asus P6T SE £140
    RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB 1600Mhz DDR3 CL9 £111
    HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB £55
    GPU: ATi 5770 £126
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W £55
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7240S-0B £18 - Note that CD/DVD-RWs are essentially all the same, so any will do.
    Chassis: Antec Three Hundred £43
    OS: Microsoft Windows 7 x64

    Total: £785 + OS

    Alternatively, by doing some trimming elsewhere it is almost possible to get the 5850 in too without compromising performance;

    CPU: Intel Core i7 920 D0 £199
    CPU Cooler: Titan Fenrir £32
    TIM: Arctic Silver 5 Cooling MX-2 £4
    Motherboard: Asus P6T SE £140
    RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB 1600Mhz DDR3 CL9 £111
    HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB 500GB £36
    GPU: ATi 5770 5850 £210
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W £55
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7240S-0B AD-5240S-0B £16
    Chassis: Antec Three Hundred Coolermaster Elite 330 £25
    OS: Microsoft Windows 7 x64

    Total: £828 + OS - You may be able to bring this down to under £800 by buying a lower-specified motherboard. I strongly suggest you don't - it's one area where skimping can only end in tears. The P6T SE is a good 'board and I'd stick with it. More cash may also be saved with a cheaper cooler (the Fenrir is the best of the best) but again, if overclocking is on the menu, the Fenrir is definitely worthwhile.

    If you can't stretch to £828, I would either drop to the 5770 (on the basis that you can upgrade a GPU annually whereas you'll be stuck with the rest of the system for years) or, if you must keep the 5850, drop to an i5 750 as recommended below.
     
    Last edited: 9 Feb 2010
  7. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    26 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    7,128
    Likes Received:
    348
    I like everything except for the case as it closes your options down for further upgrades but that's just the way I think and done myself in doing it the same way.
     
  8. tonpal

    tonpal What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    27 Jul 2008
    Posts:
    621
    Likes Received:
    32
    Probably true if you are in an area with high relative humidity such as the UK and you remember to regularly touch the case throughout the build. I personally wouldn't try to talk someone out of using a wriststrap if they wanted to. I put together a post to help people understand static and how they may choose to protect against it.
     
  9. bagman

    bagman Minimodder

    Joined:
    18 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    3,658
    Likes Received:
    78
  10. reggie50

    reggie50 Minimodder

    Joined:
    24 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    337
    Likes Received:
    9
    Definitely change the PSU to a good brand, have a look at the PSU tests on this site to see what is good and stable. I'd go for a 650W version like the Antec Truepower.

    You won't need extra data or power cables, they will be supplied with the motherboard or the PSU.

    If you have £30 left in the budget get a Titan Fenrir cooler for the CPU, and a decent 120mm fan for £5-£10.
     
  11. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    22 Jul 2009
    Posts:
    3,806
    Likes Received:
    143
    Agree with bagman. i5 750 will overclock happily and give ounces of performance, whereas the 5850 is significantly faster than the 5770.
     
  12. bagman

    bagman Minimodder

    Joined:
    18 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    3,658
    Likes Received:
    78
  13. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

    Joined:
    28 Nov 2007
    Posts:
    4,625
    Likes Received:
    161
    Aria link

    that ram in the link looks nicer and out performs everything but Dominator GT...
     
  14. bagman

    bagman Minimodder

    Joined:
    18 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    3,658
    Likes Received:
    78
    nearly all branded ram at the same have almost the excatly the same performce
     
  15. NewbI

    NewbI What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    9 Feb 2010
    Posts:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would prefer to have a better cpu instead of a better gpu therefore i will keep that the same.

    I'm still confused about the power supply as i have no idea how much power will be used if i decide to overclock the cpu in the future. You all have suggested 500-650 but the online calculator suggests i need a lot more.

    The ram you linked to is cheaper than the corsair but is it of equal quality as many people are using corsair ram here so i assumed it was of higher quality.
     
  16. PureSilver

    PureSilver E-tailer Tailor

    Joined:
    16 Dec 2008
    Posts:
    3,152
    Likes Received:
    235
    Good thinking; I would suggest the same. Have a look at my revised suggestions above; I think it's JUST about possible to get the better GPU and the better CPU.

    Online calculators are about as relevant to real life as horoscopes. Trust us, you won't need more than 500W unless you are planning Crossfire/SLi and numerous HDDs.

    Corsair make excellent RAM, but there's nothing wrong with the linked stuff.
     
  17. javaman

    javaman May irritate Eyes

    Joined:
    10 May 2009
    Posts:
    3,760
    Likes Received:
    123
    Unless Ive missed it, what are you actually using the system for?

    If your gaming on a single GPU then I would go for the i5 750. Your GPU is still gonna be the bottleneck before the processor. Even a crossfire/sli system won't have a bottle neck with the i5. yes the i7 920 is very fast but for alot of people its overkill.
     
  18. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

    Joined:
    28 Nov 2007
    Posts:
    4,625
    Likes Received:
    161
    your call dude, but Patriot have been going sins 1985 which is alot longer than corsair... there not some new cheap'o brand, look at any review of there memory products.
     
  19. NewbI

    NewbI What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    9 Feb 2010
    Posts:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks puresilver your list was useful. I changed the PSU to "OCZ Stealth XStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm Fan" - £55

    I will buy the CPU cooler and thermal paste later after checking out the stock cooler which comes with it.

    Not sure about changing the case as it makes little difference to the performance.

    I don't think i want to do the improved processor and gpu build as i think the GPU will be enough.

    javaman - Will be using it for more than just gaming as i do lots of things with different types of software. Video editing, photoshop, vmware and so on.

    Otisl33t - Thanks for your suggestion i'll look at the reviews and make a decision when i am ordering tomorrow.
     
  20. LeMaltor

    LeMaltor >^_^

    Joined:
    3 Oct 2003
    Posts:
    2,103
    Likes Received:
    27
    lol I'd used all mine when my second F3 OEM arrived, ow **** :duh:
     

Share This Page