News PM worried about game violence

something wrong with this?

anyway, this is rediculous, how athletic are video gamers that they would be out chasing people with knifes j/k (about the athletic part, and the part about carrying knifes)

it is completely the consumers responsibility.

 

It will be ilegal fro anyone to buy and sell samuri swords from april 2008. I wonder if they will then extend this to current owners like me of 4 samuri swords and a Blade sword.

 

Surely the industry is acting responsibly by submitting its work to the BBFC for classification?
More awareness of classifications and the punishment for knife/gun crime is needed, not crippling the creativity of game designers.
Games don't kill real people, real people do. (or should that be "real knifes/guns do")

 

Unfortunately not everyone thinks and acts the same.
Playing computer games might not affect the way you and I think or act, but could there be a possibility that some people do get affected by violent games!
Could there be a possibility that people do try things because they want to know what it would feel like to do it in real life!

I think that the possibilities are always a reality.

But to blame Games or Movies or even Songs, well that I don’t know.
People have always killed / murdered people – that is human life.
From the first day Humans put foot on earth, we have killed and even bullied other people.
Animals do it, weather does it and even other unknown forces kill people.

Take away certain games and I really, really, really don’t think that things will get any better.

The only reason I see the government having to get involved is because parents don’t seem to be able to teach their own children.
If people can not control themselves, then rules and laws have to be introduced and unfortunately it affects us all.

I really don’t think that the government wants to get involved with everything, they have their own problems.
But in the UK, the government have no choice because they have to be seen as doing something, otherwise people will blame the government for doing nothing.

Its like the police, people generally don’t like them, unless they need their help.

 

this may be a bit too soon so sorry if it offends anyone

but maybe they should take guns away from the police, I mean look at that ex officer that killed his wife then shot her mum then shot him self. I wonder how many violent computer games he played in his life. Which brings me onto another age discrimination snap decision the media and officials keep on making.

So a young person guns down people in a school, it must be violent video games and films.

A man in his late 40's ealry 50's guns down his wife, her mother then himself, does anyone check the viewing or game playing habbits of this individual???

The answer to this is more than likely no. People are just too sacred to think that sometimes the human mind can, not just like all of us think of evil things, actually go ahead and do evil things. Everyone has the common sense to know what their kids can watch and play. Also everyone has the right to choose what to watch or play.

 

the stupid thing is that people that want to kill another person with a samurai sword can easily get it underground.....

ban video games and violence will go up very fast, and as everyone says, the PM has more important subjects to think about.....

 

thing is does anyone actually care what a muppet like gordon brown thinks anyway after all he shouldn't even be PM did any of us EVERY get the chance to vote for him nope he slipped in when the other guy moved out. the moment tony blair retired there should have to of been a general election. so what he considers violence does really matter after all this is the guy who used to get exicted about carrying a red case.

 

if they ban games the first thing to happen will be game.co.uk going bancrupt. the second thing will be 100% piracy.

then the politicians will say: "see, we always told you, they are all criminals, lets plant some rfid chips in them".

 

In what way? Stand in every shop and ask for ID from everyone who buys their games? Surely that is the parent's and staff?
I'm sixteen and I have the views of an 80year old man, kids aren't brought up correctly these days and a lot of the time I blame this on their parents practically being kids themselves. They have no discipline, no sense of right or wrong and the legal system also doesn't enforce this. I could go on for hours but I wont, instead I will say

That game must have gotten so much publicity since it was banned and it must be on of the only games Gordon can name. Why doesn't he tell us what it entails.

 

QFT

I should think that a lot of people here carry knives for work/opening up computers. I know I do and I have a friend that had a visit to a police station having been caught carrying a small penknife for perfectly legitimate reasons.

Is the picture CS by the way?

 

Going by the letter of the law as it stands in the UK at the moment, you can carry a non locking folding knife with a blade length of less than 3" without a reason needed and as long as you have a valid reason for it you can carry just about anything. Unfortunately saying that you are carrying anything for personal defence turns that knife, no matter how tiny, into an offensive weapon and WILL get you in trouble.

The Spiderco UK penknife is a good example of a decent UK legal knife as that is what it was designed for. Non locking 2 15/16" blade.

 

You might want to brush up on your constitutional law, no one voted for Tony Blair either. This isn't the US you don't vote the man you vote the party the party can elect who ever they like to run the government, also why PARTIES put out manifestos not the various individuals. Sorry for the rant, pet hate of mine is people who can't be bothered to learn how the country works.
/off topic rant

I really wish parents would learn to look after their own children, i'm sick of having to do it for them (by proxy)

 

While I am disgusted by bans on things, probably more so than many others - he hasn't talked about bans yet guys. He's said he's worried, that's all. There are plenty of ways video game violence getting into kids daily diets can be avoided. I think most of us agree that 5 year olds (or even older kids, as it does seem like it's teenagers who commit most real knife crime) playing games that are rated for 18 year olds is a problem. Strengthening laws that prevent the ultraviolent games we know and love getting into the hands of children is no bad thing, and things like that could well be what the PM has in mind. He might have more, true, but let's not jump on him before he's gone further than saying he's worried about it.

You sure you live in the UK mate? The vast majority of our coppers aren't armed, and don't want to be armed. The ARU are a neccesity, and the idea that we'd have police forces without even specialist armed response units is incredibly stupid, frankly.

Knife and gun law in this country does piss me off no end though. Especially the fact that if a policeman finds you with a leatherman or similar, they can give you a lot of poopoo if they want - just because they're having a bad day. The laws put far too much discretionary power in the hands of people who're going to make bad decisions that negatively impact upon functional and morally innocent members of society. For a great example, look no further than the man who got arrested at an airport, and recieved a massive fine (and was lucky to avoid jailtime) for having a knife in his handluggage. He said he'd been given it as a retirement gift that afternoon and had forgotten to remove it from his bag. They said that that didn't matter, he had a knife, so he was guilty. Who was he? Why he was a retiring police officer, of course.

 

But i run faster with the knife

 

until you slip and shove it into your chest.....

 

And that, to my mind, sums up the entire argument. The government's efforts are redundant and invasive.

Of course, they're only having their collective arm twisted by stupid tabloid journalists and fanatical members of the public (PETA & their ilk, Mothers Against <everything>, religious establishments, etc), so really it's these few c***s who take themselves too seriously who are giving rise to the whole convoluted problem.

 

This always pisses me off. You dont have to be 18 to read dam violent books

 

This is what the PM wants....

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Oops, try this one..

 

At least it will not kill people!