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News Porn to be opt-in only with UK's biggest ISPs

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by arcticstoat, 11 Oct 2011.

  1. loftie

    loftie Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, I don't really see the problem with kids and porn - don't misunderstand me, I'm not gonna start showing a 5 year old a porn film, but I don't think porn is causing kids to 'grow up too fast' or even glamorises sex.

    The main problems in my opinion are more tv shows/ adverts which glamorises sex to kids. This is what causes children to think that they have to dress/act like a sex symbol. Because children see their idols doing it, they think it's cool and want to do it too. It's sad really, walking round seeing kids dressing with very little on, so much so they make people who are going out look overdressed.

    And again, it's the parents fault for letting them.

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  2. Rustypouch

    Rustypouch New Member

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    Sure would be awkward if you still lived with your parents when you are 18+ and you have to ask your mum or dad to unblock the porn.
     
  3. phuzz

    phuzz This is a title

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    Let's not get some things straight from the start.

    1) This filter will not block all porn. (eg google image search, or a new porn site that's not on the block list yet)
    2) It will be easily circumventable with a little effort. (eg vpn, tor, proxy)
    3) It will be used to block content other than porn. (you think the government wouldn't use this to block wikileaks if they could?).

    While we're on point 3), what about lingerie sites? (the closest I got to pr0n as a kid), or pictures of people in cultures that don't wear clothes (eg National Geographic)? Medical sites? Fashion sites? Michelangelo's David or Botticelli's The Birth of Venus? There's never been a definition of porn that people could agree on.

    What about unsavoury material that isn't pr0n like rotten.com, (or whatever the equivalent is now), will that be blocked? And if you're going to block pictures of dead people, would that also include pictures of this church that is decorated with the skeletons of the dead? They're just as dead, but does the lack of flesh, and age make a difference? Why?

    But hey, I'm an adult with no kids, so whether it's opt in, opt-out, or mandatory, I won't be using it.
     
  4. Kiytan

    Kiytan Shiny

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    offer a free copy of <insert content filtering software here> with instructions on how to set it up, for every account (something which most actually do anyway) problem solved. Dramatically cheaper, none of the drawbacks.

    There's also the whole argument of it even encouraging kids to look for porn (something you are not allowed to do is instantly more interesting anyway)
     
  5. Mongoose132

    Mongoose132 Duckmad

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    Awkward conversations ensue as desperate teenagers across the country attempt to explain their need for 'research material' on those strange wimminz creatures. :O
     
  6. Blazza181

    Blazza181 SVM PLACENTA CASEI

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    The look on my friend's face when he heard this = :jawdrop:
     
  7. 3lusive

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    Big Brother is finally here
     
  8. The_EXorcist

    The_EXorcist Possibly Australian

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    Man, England used to be the envy of the world. The epitome of civilisation, and citizens rights. England invaded other countries, and brought these things to the people of those countries. Now it seems that you just bicker and argue while the government gets to strip your rights away, under the guise of " best for the people " and once those liberties are stripped from you, half will be saying " i told you so " and the others will be saying " but i didnt think it would happen ".
     
  9. pendragon

    pendragon I pickle they

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    logged in just to give you +rep for this. /agreed
     
  10. greypilgers

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    On another note- has there ever been so many posts so quickly about any other news item??? LoL...
     
  12. 3lusive

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    Fixed ;)
     
  13. fodder

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    This is very sensible IMHO, although being designed by committee will balls up the application no doubt.

    Remember, most parents have enough trouble printing from their pc or attaching something to an email. Do you really think they are going to out-smart a curious 12 year old boy in net access? Believe me, having been in a situation to try and stop one looking up videos of hardcore S&M, 'forced' sex, double anal.... at a local level is near impossible. He would get hold of a windows install disc and completely format the pc to overcome any software blocks, hard reset the router to wipe the firewall and parental controls too.

    If this is set by default by the ISP, the parents are forced to consider what they are letting their children see in enabling these sights. Today it would appear 'out of site, out of mind' when it comes to parenting and this is a good way to do it.

    Oh and for the people who don't think porn is damaging to the psychology and future life choices of pre-pubescent children, you numpties. Some of the most deviant adults are that way through abuse as a child or young teenager. Innocent curiosity is fine, anatomy is anatomy and we all have it, but the abuse of a partner (willing or not) should not be viewed at this age. They do not understand consent, why do you think an adult has to provide consent for those under 18?
     
  14. 3lusive

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    I suppose you're the kind of person that believes games like GTA make children into psycho mass-murders too...
     
  15. Krazeh

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    Since when did we go from porn to abuse?
     
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    All I can say is...damn :(
     
  17. rogerrabbits

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    I don't really care. If you want porn then opt in. If you dont, dont. I think if I had kids I would probably appreciate not having to sit with them every time they wanted to go on the internet. People saying its up to the parents to monitor their kids are not being very realistic. Most kids these days live on the net, chatting with their friends on facebook and MSN and stuff. It's just not feasable to watch what they are doing all the time and porn is all over the internet. Ideally they should just get one of those nanny software things, but most people are not tech savvy enough to use one of those, or even know that they exist.

    The only thing that came to mind when I read about this, is why porn is the only thing people care about. Why not pictures of dead decapitated people, people blowing their brains out, bomb making, how to make your own drugs, etc... The internet is full of all kinds of crazy stuff, so its a bit weird seeing a big clampdown on boobs.
     
  18. javaman

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    Probably be quite easy if all porn sites are forced to use .xxx
     
  19. thehippoz

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    what has been seen.. cannot be unseen =p youtube is scary enough- you can find a bunch of fd up people posting their views on things.. problem is it's not vetted by the community so anything goes

    you can get on your bullhorn so to speak and do silly little backflips on a swingbar.. you would have never known there was someone doing those backflips back in the 90's..

    problem imo is kids are bombarded by media

    we used to have to sneak playboys out of the basement when I was a kid.. my friends dad collected them xD nowdays a little horned up ******* can just go on his computer in his room and get the freakshow.. it'sd no wonder kids think they know everything nowdays.. they've literally seen it all
     
  20. Woodspoon

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    Yes and millions upon millions of teenagers who looked at porn grew up perfectly normal.
    Then there's the church, how many time's do we hear on the news about people in the church abusing children yet these are the same people that are saying porn is bad and no one should look at it.
    It seems that a lot of the time that it's the people who are told not to look at it are the ones who grow up with issues.

    The actions of a few should not dictate the freedoms of the many.
     
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