Motherboards Possible dead motherboard- halp!

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  1. .//TuNdRa

    .//TuNdRa Resident Bulldozer Guru

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    I'll leave it for a few days before I do anything else. I've rather given up hope, though.
     
  2. feathers

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    My comment about changing to Intel stems from the days I used to sell peltiers (TECs). My then motherboard an Abit IC7 max 3 took massive amounts of abuse as the CPU was chilled below zero c, the board had a lot of physical wear and tear from fitting and removing cpu so many times to test the cooling and yet it still kept going. It also suffered crashes/resets caused by condensation on the times the neoprene insulation wasn't sufficiently sealing around the cpu.

    The motherboard still kept going.

    On the other hand some of my customers lost their AMD motherboards at the first sign of condensation. I guess there were some differences in design perhaps around the CPU pin arrangement that made the AMD less resiliant.

    I don't assume things are the same today, it just left a bad taste regarding AMD.
     
  3. Chicken76

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    .//TuNdRa have you tried re-seating the CPU? While you're at it, try and look very closely to the socket and surrounding circuits/contacts, maybe some TIM was smeared and is shorting something.
     
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    If you get stuck I've got a spare amd phenom 550 and board you can borrow. I'm only in kettering
     
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    feathers Minimodder

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    I used to live in Kettering when I was a kid.

    Early 70's.
     
  6. .//TuNdRa

    .//TuNdRa Resident Bulldozer Guru

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    Cheers for the offer, dude. I'll probably wait it out. I get a bit of a bad overclocking itch if I'm given a chip like that, and I wouldn't want to nuke that processor. As is; I have a spare board, but it's not Bulldozer Compatible.

    I'll try re-seating the CPU when I get home. I've got nothing to do tomorrow anyway.

    The only thing that's occured to me since; my NB block suffered a lot of rocking back and forth, and it's basically a bare die underneath there, could I have crushed a corner of it by accident?
     
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    The NB should be ok if the NB waterblock is spring loaded and not over tightened. A bit of movement shouldn't be a problem unless the block was very tight and then rocked substantially.
     
  8. .//TuNdRa

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    It's more the issue that the block is only secured at two corners. I didn't do it little more than just over gently fingertight, so I could've gotten another good 5mm of screw length through if I wanted to. I dunno, though. I tore the blocks off and whacked all the stock cooling back on for the moment, to see if I couldn't get it all working that way.

    I'll give it another spin tonight, see if I can't get it to at least POST.
     
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    I can't really offer any help but I do hope you can get it sorted .//TuNdRa :thumb:
     
  10. .//TuNdRa

    .//TuNdRa Resident Bulldozer Guru

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    So do i. I don't really want to be without a rig for a month and a half!

    EDIT: Nope. its still dead. Bugger. Doesn't even scream blue murder out of the BIOS speaker if I start it without the CPU in there.
     
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  11. .//TuNdRa

    .//TuNdRa Resident Bulldozer Guru

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    Bit of a double post.

    Anyway: i've decided tp try and RMA the board. One thing did occur to me, though; this board has Dual BIOS. Secondary BIOS might not be updated enough to run the FX. I'd rather not have to pay even more shipping costs just for another BIOS update issue.
     
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    Hokay then; Legendary threadbump and a triple-post, but I've been checking everything over, and working my rear off to solve the issues. I've uncovered a few things.

    Firstly; The 990FXA is dead. Dodo-like, infact.

    Secondly; My Spare 880GA is also dead.

    Thirdly; Both were connected to that Strider 1KW. Co-incidence? I think not!

    Fourth; Both exhibit same symptoms.

    Fifth; My spare Corsair CX600 can't breathe life into them.

    My suspicion is that something has gone horribly wrong inside of the Power Supply and thus it's killing every motherboard it's connected to. I don't really want to test my theory, though, just in case I kill another motherboard by proving it right.

    Thankfully; it seems to only be the motherboards. My Hard-drives have survived, at least.

    Haven't got a spare machine that'll take DDR3, however, so I can't test to see if my Vengance LP survived the incident, while It's pot luck as to whether my 8120 also died with the 990FXA. I'm hoping it didn't as I've had enough bad luck this month, but I don't know at the moment.

    Anyway; I'm sending back the motherboard and Power supply to be tested by Scan. I do hope these faults actually exist, because I'm going to be even more confused if it works fine on their end.
     
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    Is it worth prodding the power supply with a multimeter to see if one of the voltages is way out of spec before sending it back?
     
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    Perhaps. But That power supply will do over 100Amps on the 12V rail, i'd rather not prod it just in case I blow up the Multi-meter. And myself.
    I suspect that it could be the 3.3V rail, though. it'd give the motherboard a good searing, but nothing other than the motherboard really utilizes it inside the PC, which would explain how the HDDs and the like are still going without an issue.
     
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    Hmm, fair point. Do you think you'll stick with Bulldozer if the 8120 has died?
     
  16. feathers

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    That must be one BAD powersupply! Even a cheap EAGLE that exploded because I was trying to drive PC and peltier/TEC from it didn't kill the motherboard when it died many years ago. Nor did the cheap £20 PSU I put in my GF's PC. That went back same morning it was installed. PC parts were protected. Never heard of striker before.

    Maybe you should buy "Sparkle" brand next time :)
     
  17. .//TuNdRa

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    Probably. Scan should honour the warranty if it's the Power supply blowing the processor and motherboard up, as there's basically nothing I did wrong. The whole lot was connected to a surge protector, so there's nothing else I could have reasonably done to ensure that it wouldn't happen.

    Feathers; this is the same Silverstone Strider design that True_Gamer was using for a long while (And still is) that's part of the reason I bought it; I knew that if the 1.5KW bigger brother had survived Simon; the 1KW variant ought to survive whatever I did to it.

    Anyway; I'll probably stay AMD. Might as well be one of the few crazy people left. Those with more money than sense. :D
     
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    I think Tundra has a Silverstone Strider 1KW which I believe was/is a highly praised PSU...
     
  19. feathers

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    I guess there is no guarantee a PSU won't kill bits. Friend of mine had his expensive PSU kill his expensive mobo. The manufacturer replaced his PSU with a bigger one. Has been ok since.
     
  20. .//TuNdRa

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    That's what confuses me more, my system, even with processor at 5ghz+ and stucking down 210W just for the CPU doesn't edge much past 800W, there is no way on this earth that at 3.8 I managed to overload that PSU into failure.

    I kinda wish I could tear it apart and see what went pop, but It's being sent off tomorrow afternoon for checking and possible replacement, so I dunno.

    Here's to hoping that this is the last time I have a good quality power supply nuke another £120 (Minimum) of parts.
     

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