I bought an HP printer. Yeah - Mr. Frugal. Anyway it has this software that pops up on every print job that shows ink levels. This software is crap. It says I have been out of color for 2 weeks. How many people do you think change their cartridges because of crap software telling them to? Mine still prints color fine and the HP software nags at every print job to go to HP online and buy new ones. I use mine till the color or the black really quits. john
You're thinking of this wrong: it's not a defect, it's a feature. Why do you think the initial cost of printers (in general) is so low? They make up the loss in profit by selling you drastically over-priced ink. Last HP I had cost me more to buy the colour cartridge than it did to buy the printer new. So guess which one I did? After about five of them (I'm not kidding on that either) I went and searched out printers with cheap ink, and found cannon. Love them. Cost me $35 for a full set of ink (colour and black), and they would last a very long time (when doing digital prints, I could usually get about 40ish colour photos out of them, and still have the black nearly full). I'm fairly certain that there was a lawsuit a while ago about this (either that, or the built-in expiry date on certain ink cartridges with chips in them that just stopped working after a certain amount of time, no matter how much ink was in them). Not sure what the result was, or if there was one, but I cannot readily find any info about it (read: didn't search). As well, every time you turn the printer on, go to print something, stop printing something, or turn the printer off, it "cleans" the heads. While this is necessary, I've opened up a few printers with over-flowing waste-ink wells. I believe there is little doubt in this day and age as to the simple fact that inkjet printers are the single most wasteful form of information re-utilization. Next printer I'm looking at (as I just sold my last one) will be a pixima mp620. They look spurfy.
Welcome to inkjet hatred fold. John! Yeah, the ink-wells in these things are amazing. They have the worst efficiency of any kind of imaging device as far as I'm concerned, even against thermal wax. Laser Cheesecake!
MY HP D1530 cartridges cost $31 for black and color at any WallMart. If I listened to the software I would be buying ink 3X as often as needed. I use only HP ink in an HP printer and you would think the software would accomodate it's own manufaturers cartridge levels. How many of the bad boys go to the bin/garbage/recycle before their time by the casual printer user? I use this one daily for my wife's eBay store and it's criminal how it nags to replace a working cartridge. john
Did you look at the cartridge box... it's like you pay a fortune for a spoon full of ink. THAT'S IT. And if you don't use the printer quick enough the ink can dry! The best solution is laser printer. It's pricier and larger, BUT the printed paper drastically cheaper. And it's powered! the ink is already dry, so it always works!.
Read my last post. I use it DAILY for my wife's eBay store for printing invoices and shipping. I average 3 weeks after the fool thing tells me I'm out of ink. It's pitiful to tell users - especially older people who are not as computer literate as some of us to just BUY more. john
Hey, hey! Don't get selfish now! Those corporate big-wigs need money just like the rest of us! Without the elderly, I doubt very much Mark Hurd could have ever afforded his brand new solid-gold humvee! True story. (read: not) To be honest, it should be illegal to have programs that dupe those less-inclined towards the commonsensical side of the genetic pool. But, really, these people are out to make money, and the only way we're ever going to stop it is to not support their company, or write really coarsely worded letters and send them off via priority post, as that'll get the message home! The third option, obviously, would be to recrudesce to the olden days of calligraphy where scores of monks would labor endlessly with quill in hand, scrawling upon their bit of paper the information you desire. This way, whenever a monk would waste a bit of ink, you could retrieve your Suitable Temperament Re-Adjusting Processing tool and properly dictate the methods and mannerisms of which you wish them to work. I like the third option.
we just got a new HP printer. It's a C7280. Works great. Haven't had it long enough to know how much the ink costs though. It doesn't tell us how much ink is in it each time we print though. Which HP do you have? The one we got is wireless because of our laptop and so far so good. When installing it I did the custom install and chose the minimum stuff needed and there isn't any nagging stuff yet which is good. A cool thing about our HP is because it's wireless and has it's own IP address it also has it's own little webpage where I can view information on it like how much ink is left, how many pages it has printed and i can change settings and print test pages or whatever. Anyways, since we got it on Friday we've printed 77 pages and it says all 6 ink cartridges are still full. I have a small HP PSC printer in my room which i've had since around July last year and still haven't changed ink cartridges, though I don't use it often. Not sure what to say about your printer. We've only used HP printers in our house and havent had any problems and ink seems to last very good. If you want something super cheap on ink the new Kodak printers are supposed to be good. We were going to get the ESP7 but decided not to because I've read too many bad reviews. Lots of people having problems with those printer and they only work good on kodak paper.
Just forgo the color and get a laser printer... you'll never regret it. I detest inkjet printers... unless its a memjet...
Over here we have shops that specialise in selling inkjet cartridges, but they also refill existing cartridges for significantly less than a new one costs, much to the chagrin of the printer companies. Have a look around and you might find a similar shop near you, it'll save you a lot of money compared to buying whole new cartridges (or printers) when you run out.
Even Cannon aren't perfect, my ip1600 will do a few pages of colour even though it says its run out. The moral of the story is always print until you can see the ink has run out... Also, never buy an epson, they were the worst for scamming, as they did it based on time, and some of them would make you remove the cartridge when the timer was up, and wouldn't let you remove the ink cartridges before that. Meaning you couldn't get round it by taking the cartridge out and putting it back in, as when id did finally run out, the printer wouldn't let you remove it I believe there was a lawsuit regarding those though, and epson lost.
Cost of Inkjet printer: £30 Cost of complete refill :£25 Number of pages per cartridge: ~60 Cost of laserjet printer: £120 Cost of complete refill: £100 Number of pages per toner: >1000 Do the math.... Inkjet ~2.4p per page Laserjet ~0.1p per page you'll save so much money by purchasing a laserjet.
one more vote for laserjet. that or a printer that accepts XL cartridges and you buy recycled cartridges.
We've got an HP Color Laserjet 2600n, best printer we've ever bought! Went to HUGE lengths to get one when we moved to the middle east. New set of cartridges is like £80, and it was £250 to buy, but you get SO many pages it's amazing. Lots of booklet printing. It's not quite as high resolution as an inkjet, but it does do full page colour printing without the page going soggy, and gives a glossy effect.
+1 for Canon i hope it's still the same for new ones, but the cartridges are cheap, have no security electronic chips at all, and are completely transparent so you can physically check the print level yourself. Just pulled some cartridges from mine as an example black cartridge shows as full in the print driver blue shows as empty (sensor measures the ink chamber on the right) but you can see how much ink is left in the left chamber and it'll let you keep printing until the colour physically stops showing up in prints. And thats how all inkjets should work IMHO
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