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Project Black Narcissus: 2006 FIN:

Discussion in 'Project Logs' started by modsquad, 28 Jun 2004.

  1. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    Thanks Firehed. So, I guess Fluid XP+ gives you the "comfort-factor"..But at a cost..
    32oz (1000ml) of Fluid XP+ = $35.00
    50ml of Aqua-Computer ACfluid = $9.00 (enough to treat about 1200+ ml of H20).
    Is my math correct?
    Thats quite a price to pay for comfort.
    I also feel the need to mention that it looks like FrozenCPU will be stocking much of AlphaCool's line of H20 cooling gear..Good news for Yankee "smallBore" h20-cooling devotees..That being said, AlphaCool is no match for Aqua-Computer (there can only be one#1)...... :thumb:
     
  2. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    Fluid XP+ test data: http://www.overclockers.com/articles1028/
    It's end-benefit may (assuming your loop is clean and properly sealed) be that it will have a longer useful life than any distilled water+additive combination. Such a property could understandably be a breaking point if a liquid-cooling loop were a consideration for a server application but for anything else the extra cost may not be worth it.
     
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  3. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    Indeed. And if anyone cares to lend me about $15k... I'll get a move on :)

    Meh, the pains of part-time minimum wage. Even if it is apparently going up 25c after the new year.

    I don't think I paid $9 for my bottle of ACFluid. Actually, in the 2% ratio, it would treat 2500mL of water methinks. 1mL of AC fluid treats 50mL of dH2O, so 50mL ACF * 50mL dH2O/1mLACF=2500mL treated dH2O. So, a 2L bottle's worth plus a bit to spare. Should be good for quite a few loops.
     
  4. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    Your correct Firehed. I just "made a batch" of AC-treated H20 last week (Sharka price $8.95) and already forgot the concentration :duh: ..Looking at the ACfluid bottle:
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    von 2%.......is correct.. :thumb:
    @Cpt. Slug
    Thanks for the link Captain, I think Fluid XP+'s biggest "selling point" is not it's longevity. BUT instead it's ablity to not KILL-YOUR GEAR in the case of a major leak. Although hardware like Aqua-Computer's TubeMeter should/would give you "forewarning".. Fluid XP+ (all things considered) maybe worth the money they ask..
     
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  5. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    BUT, the tubemeter won't work with FluidXP, as it's non-conductive. At least I wouldn't think so. I'd imagine it would always read as empty. Chances are that the tubemeter won't be able to shut down your computer quick enough; it's better for those slow evaporation-type fluid level drops. I suppose if you wire a relay to kill the power, it would do the trick.
     
  6. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    MAN-O_MAN..very good point..I think (perhaps) your correct!!!! Any--ideas..people..
    Would the Aqua-Computer TubeMeter work with a non-conductive solvent like Fluid XP+ in the loop?
    This maybe a question for (the) Aqua-Computer (forum)...A very good one...You GO----Firehed.....
     
  7. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    If it works how I think it does (basically having the water short the metal contacts to sense levels), then a nonconductive fluid wouldn't work. I seem to remember Nexxo mentioning at some point that Fluorinert wouldn't work with it. Or my 6:30am "I woke up at 3pm yesterday" mind is playing tricks on me. Yeah, my body clock needs to be reset. Again :rolleyes:

    It should be either/or though - either use a nonconductive fluid and not worry about damage from leaks or use a fluid where you can monitor levels easily. I'd opt for the latter, due to evaporation over time. *Especially* with my setup, as one of my pump inlet's is halfway up the side of my aquatube, and I can't really see that opening relative to the water level thanks to an aquajet. Maybe someday... but I rather like my LED on the bottom, and can't do much until I get a G1/8 or G1/4 tap (and uber drill/tap skills)

    In theory, a 'clean' loop wouldn't register on a tubemeter either, since pure water (distilled is usually pure enough) is nonconductive. But I'd imagine little copper particles and whatnot would change that quickly. It's when the pure water spills over your dusty video card that issues arise.
     
  8. Goth

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    modsquad, is Aquacomputer ur sponsor ? damn, ur lucky :) maybe if i can make some more money, i can use water-cooling in my first mod ... (Y)
     
  9. Top Nurse

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    Happy New year to all!

    See Dick drink
    See Dick drive
    See Dick in jail or die
    Don't be a Dick :D
     
  10. Nexxo

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    Not sure. FluidXP is not as non-conductive as it is made out to be... perhaps its residual conductivity is enough, but I wouldn't count on it. Fluorinert definitely will not work with this sensor.
     
  11. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    No, Aqua-Computer just makes the best H20 cooling gear money can buy (IMO). I have said this before, but some of AC's mystique (at least for us Americans) could be the difficultity in getting the gear and trying to understand there German manuals..
    It's human nature to want (crave) the unattainable..Perhaps Most modders in German lust after DangerDen gear, I can't say..

    2006..

    A new year needs a new project..(coming soon)..
    I still have odds/ends to finish, but that being said..This project is FINISHED.. Or as close to finished as any custom PC can be. There is always something else to add/change (and I will be sure to keep you guys up to date)..I do not want this project to drag-on forever..
    Next weekend I will give BN it's final photoshoot..Then FIN...

    I would like to say it's been a "great ride".. Thanks to ALL OF YOU for your help and ideas over the past 18 months, it's been GREAT FUN..I could not have done it without you..Thanks to Bit-tech as well: This forum is a great tool in building these machines..I hope this project (in it's own small way) has contriubuted to the vast knowledge base that is Bit-tech.. :dremel:
     
  12. Big SturL

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    Weee :D Thank's for the kudos. I reckon my contribution through being astonished by your casemod has helped in some way :)

    Well, as I said a couple of months ago, I would try to make a V1000B casemod myself, and incorporate something from the movie/comic Sin City, and today I'm picking up MY very own V1000 at the postoffice :) The end of one mod is the begining of another... (poetic ey?).

    :thumb:
     
  13. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    No thanks necessary..What is COOL is I was the second (mj007 was first, by about a week) guy to mod a LL V1000 on this forum. It was a "new" case when I started. Almost 2-years later, IMO the LL v-series cases are still the best looking case(s) money-can-buy..I think I picked the right brand/model to mod.....
    SO thanks to LianLi....... :thumb: is well..
    I will get those fresh-photo's uploaded ASASP..
     
  14. [ShoNuff]

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    Hey MS…I was “catching up” and BN definitely exceeded my expectations. Who would have ever thought you could do that with a lil ol’ V1000. :D

    What did you ever decide on with respect to a keyboard? I’m sure you have seen the new Deck 105 key keyboard that is available in a PS2 format. They look like nice boards and I think I may order one.
     
  15. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    Thanks Sho, and thanks for all your help along the way. The LL V-series case(s) are still the best-looking money can buy (IM0).. They have such a clean-look..I think I was able to add a few small modifications that improved on the stellar looks of a stock V1000b.
    Working on a LL-V series case is like working on a classic-car..There is no need to "reinvent the wheel"...JUST accentuate the positive--eliminate the negative..(a line from a VERY old song)..
    As for the Deck 105..Yes, that is the perfect keyboard for me. They are not cheap (over $100US I think)..
    I am looking forward to seeing your "finished product" especially your h20 loop (I am thinking about SLI for my other project) and the water-cut side panel.
    I have plans for a new project (I have all the Aqua-Computer gear I will need) but I have not found a case I really like..
     
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  16. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi Were is that dam tv remote....

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    all good things must come to a close :D ,

    quick question modsquad do you know the pulse setting for the innovatek flow meter rev 2.0, nexxo said it was 232 but it seems im getting a lot of flow for that setting, acording to the aquaero almost 2.58l/m, just want to get a second answer on the setting?
     
  17. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    If memory serves, Nexxo found that number on the Innovatek website under the specs for that rev 2 flow meter..I would say your flow-rate is correct..ShoNuff did actual flow-rate testing with the same gear (aquaero & Innovatek meter & 232pluse) and ended up with about the same rate your getting. I know it's in his project log, or send him a PM for his data, he a "goodfella" I am sure he can help..
    That being said IMO, the real reason for a h20 flow meter is to watch for a steady flow-rate. As long as your Aquaero (which is a great unit) says 2.58 l/m the flow meter is doing it's job.. :thumb:
     
  18. ShadowWings

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    Yesterday I started reading this book aka project log, and I have to say it has blowed my mind. The attention to details, high quality and preformance parts is just amazing.

    hope to see more of your work in the future.

    grtz ShadowWings
     
  19. [ShoNuff]

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    Nexxo's setting for the Innovatek FM R2 is correct. When testing the unit I set up a big bucket so that I could measure 10 liters in 1 liter increments per TN's suggestion. I did this three times using the 232 setting and it was spot on. :thumb:
     
  20. modsquad

    modsquad Grease Monkey Undergraduate..

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    Thanks for the confirmation Sho..
    Get back to work on your Project :hehe:
    I want to see that machine come to life...
     

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