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Project: Metal Slug - [Hardware @ Dec. 1st]

Discussion in 'Project Logs' started by Captain Slug, 5 Jan 2007.

  1. Philipp

    Philipp What's a Dremel?

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    Agreed! :)

    I really like the machine you built. :thumb:
     
  2. Soulmage

    Soulmage Minimodder

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    Looking really good Capt! :thumb:


    Are you thinking of another modders post? 3e I believe?
     
  3. dacust

    dacust What's a Dremel?

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    WOOPS! :blush:

    I WAS looking at this log for the other statements, though.
     
  4. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    Well, I'm at wits end right now.
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    Both block tops are dead due to complete material failure. The grade of polycarbonate I used apparently couldn't withstand the antifreeze. I caught it before any hardware was killed because I was investigating the leak near the video card.

    I'm really mad right now and I don't want to look at this machine for the next week. I'll make new waterblock tops once I stop feeling like throwing this machine out of a third story window.

    Lesson here: Only use Delrin, Brass, or Copper to make waterblock tops.
     
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  5. dacust

    dacust What's a Dremel?

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    Man, that bites. Hang in there, I'll wait. I sure am glad I'VE never broken anything... :blush:
     
  6. tkdwarrior

    tkdwarrior What's a Dremel?

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    nasty...... that sucks.

    keep going man, it's just a (big) bump in the road that is modding. :)
     
  7. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    if thats a big bump, was it a cow lieing in the road? lol

    shame that had to happen, wont take long to fix it and the other blocks.

    have fun!!!
     
  8. rowin4kicks

    rowin4kicks a man walked into a bar ...

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    wow that is a real shame cos those blocks looked good!
    but i reckon some block tops made from derilin or copper would look great as well!
     
  9. Fozzy

    Fozzy What's a Dremel?

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    I was a little worried when I saw that block TBH just because it's suck a small footprint for so many holes.
     
  10. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    The issue was the ethylene glycol destabilized the molecular structure of the polycarbonate. I knew this was an issue if I were to run alcohol in the loop, but I didn't think antifreeze would do the same thing. Now I know for sure.
    I will be making new tops out of black delrin in a week or so.
     
  11. KayinBlack

    KayinBlack Unrepentant Savage

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    Hmm, what type of polycarb did you use? I might know something that would still let you use antifreeze, but you might want to look at something like PC Ice if you're going for anything like that... It's better on your pump, to boot.
     
  12. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    I already have some black delrin coming in the mail.
    The pump isn't going to have any problems. It's made out of PVC and Polyethylene.
     
  13. brinkz0r

    brinkz0r Minimodder

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    I like the way the case looks, like you're able to throw it through the room and it would still be in one part :hehe:
     
  14. Gordy

    Gordy Evil Teddy

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    Looks good but the pics are too dark to see it in full glory :)
     
  15. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Why do you put anti-freeze, just 100% demineralized water. I am no professional, and never got a water colling system, but I mean it's not like it will be cold at 0 degree Celsius, all you do is pass water in a grid to cool it off. All you need is to NOT to not leave minerals deposits inside the pipes which will turn them yellow/white at the inside (bad for transparent tubes), reduce water flow, cause the pump to force (all that should appear over the years). Oh and 100% demineralized water does not conduct electricity... (notice, I said 100% demineralized water, not 99%)

    Therefor you can fill your computer, like a tub, of this water to cool it off, and it will function without problem. ALSO, this water doesn't boil, like vegetable oil you buy.
    It's the minerals that get active in the water that makes it boil.

    heuuu ok, I think I'm getting off-topic here...
    Sorry, back to the subject.. yea what is up with anti-freeze in you water colling?
     
  16. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    You may want to calibrate your monitor.
    Corrosion inhibitor to prevent the water from oxidizing the copper. Or should you mix aluminum an copper in your watercooling loop you will need a higher concentration of anti-freeze to inhibit galvanic corrosion that could eat away at both metals. The reason to use deionized water is to prevent lyme and calcium buildup. 3 to 6 drops of iodine is added to prevent algae and bacterial growth.

    Water isn't conductive itself, but the crap that will eventually be floating around in and be dissoluted in it will be.

    The only cooling setup that does not require antifreeze would be an evaporative system. But you will still need to use deionized water with several drops of iodine.
     
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  17. KayinBlack

    KayinBlack Unrepentant Savage

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    Well put.

    For those of us with mixed metal cooling (I've got a pair of Koolance 8800GTS blocks waiting for barbs for the SLI connection) it's absolutely necessary. That, or a nonconductive fluid that inhibits corrosion. Also, it's not just that you clean it properly. Copper and other metals will form ions after prolonged exposure, and the ethylene glycol will keep them from galvanic corrosion and eating holes in your stuffs. If you want more info on that concept, google metal nobility.

    Sorry, just had to do it.

    On with the show, bro!
     
  18. Gordy

    Gordy Evil Teddy

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    It is, works fine on all the other pictures I look at, just yours seem too dark to me.
     
  19. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    I always wondered... How many times you need to fill your water tank per year?
     
  20. Captain Slug

    Captain Slug Infinite Patience

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    It really depend on the side of the reservoir or t-line. You just top it off every few months since a tiny amount of the coolant in your loop will evaporate out through the tubing. If you have to top it off more frequently than once a month you may have a leak somewhere.
     

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