The only company i found selling 50cc scooters is Direct Bikes (http://www.scooter.co.uk/) which has a very nice Ninja scooter, but is there any other companies selling scooters? Does anyone know maybe cheaper 50cc's which look as nice as Ninja. =) And also when i send my documents to get provisional license, how do other people need to sign my photo? Just on the back of the photo, like name and sign? Thanks
You also need to do the CBT. It's a horrendously complex system at the moment but AFAIK it goes something like this. >16yo, Provisional license + CBT => 50cc scooter + L plates. >17yo, Provisional License + CBT on geared bike => 125cc + L plates. >17yo, Test on 125cc + CBT + Theory test => A1 license => 125cc Bike > 17yo, Test on 125cc + CBT + Theory test => Restricted A license => 250cc (25kw/33BHP) Bike > 2 years later => Unrestricted A license => Any bike. >21yo, Test on 500cc + CBT + Theory test => Unrestricted license => Any bike. I think I have the different options correct but I could easily have got some wrong, I'm currently doing the direct access course (last option). Moriquendi
oO ooouu thanks. Yeah thanks about cbt I am only intrested about the mopeds on the moment as I am only 16. If anyone knows where to look for non expensive moped linkyy pleasee THaanks.
id steer clear of the cheap scooters, buy a used piaggio, gilera or a well known brand, alot of my friends when we were 16 got the cheap ones, and in 6 months time ull wish u never bought a cheap scooter
One thing to consider is that if you buy a decent used one now it will still be worth a fair amount when you come to sell it in a year or two whereas if you buy something cheap and nasty from a manufacturer nobodies heard of it'll be worth nothing when you come to sell it. Try AutoTrader (the bike section) or the local free ads/equivalent. A lot of people do exactly what you're doing and get a scooter when they're 16 and then sell it on when they're 17/18 and can drive a car so there should be a pretty good market in second hand scooters. Moriquendi
you were close with that description: 16yo + CBT = up to 49 cc with L plates 17yo + CBT = up to 124 cc with L plates The interesting point here is you don't have to do your CBT on a geared bike to ride one, AND if you do your CBT on a twist and go 'ped when you're 16, as soon as you turn 17 you can ride a 125 with gears with out any extra training (the system is pretty messed up) The rest was right, although for the DAS test (big bike test) it's not necessarily a 500cc bike you need, just one that's over 46.6bhp My girlfriend's mum is an instructor and I just passed last week so I'm pretty knowledgeable on the subject. Get good protective gear, and I mean the lot, helmet, gloves, boots, jacket and trousers, you'll be looking to spend around £200 - £250 in total on the gear, but it's worth it, I just had my first crash at about 30mph, and I walked away with a few bruises, with out my gear on, it would have been a LOT worse, the stuff is amazing. If you haven't already got a helmet, check this site out: sharp.direct.gov.uk/ some £60 helmet gets 5 stars and a £400 one gets 2 stars, price isn't everything.
My Mum rides a Peugeot V-Clic and it seems like a great little bike... She looked at that cheap chinese import and the dealers around here said she would have to built it herself, which is just plain crazy!
Found few nice scooters but most I liked are: http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...cleYearOfManufacture=2001&vehicleRegLetter=51 and http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...icleYearOfManufacture=2000&vehicleRegLetter=W is that a roa legal bike? and http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...cleYearOfManufacture=2003&vehicleRegLetter=53 ^^ What do you think guys?
Of those three go for the last one. The motorcross type bike does seem to be road legal, but doesn't have an MOT and needs some work doing, so steer clear of that. Plus I'd advise against 50cc bikes with gears. The first one seems ok, but only has a short MOT, when buying any second hand vehicle I always look for at least 10 months MOT.
theres MOT on 50cc cycles? Lol.. in belgium where i lived while i had mine, we didnt even have license plates. You had a piece of paper stating it was EU certified when build and that was it.
I like the Peugeot probably most by looks. And yes I don't want gears so no Dirt Bike style. On the peugeot mot is until July 2009 which is good but is it too old or it's still would be good? I don't want a scooter which will die on me in few weeks ^^ No problems with small repairs and maintaince though =) Also how much you think insurance would be?? Thanks.
The reason I'd avoid the Peugeot (other than the fact they don't tell you how many miles it's done) is you're likely to use the bike for a year and then upgrade, and with only 5 months MOT you can't be sure you wont have to shell out another few hundred quid to get it through its next MOT. Do you have any local bike shops? go and talk to them, they'll tell you all you need to know. I've only ever ridden a scooter once, geared bikes are my area of expertise. Insurance probly between £500 and £700 but that is just guess, you can get new scooters with free insurance for a little over a thousand.
With regard to helmets, have a look at this, to summarise, you're 24% less likely to to have an accident if you wear a white helmet compared to a black one. Having your headlight on during the day reduces the risk by 27% and wearing fluorescent/reflective clothing reduces it by 37%. The moral of the story seems to be if you look like a dork you're less likely to have an accident. Last point on helmets, you cant buy one online, you need to go and try them on. Try on as many as you can because different manufacturers make their helmets different sizes and shapes. Congrats on passing Shuriken, I've got my test tomorrow , wish me luck. Moriquendi
Well said Moriquendi, all really good points, especially the helmet colour one, so many people buy black helmets cause they 'look cooler', and then wonder why cars blind-side them. Best of luck in your test, just remember what my instructor told me, all they're looking for is that you're a safe rider, if you can show you're safe, you'll pass I'm jealous that you could spring for the DAS test, I couldn't afford the training for that, so I'm restricted for 2 years, although I think even I'd done DAS I'd have been tempted to go restricted for a little while, a 125 to a 600 would be such a HUGE difference.
To be honest I want a blue helmet....Don't know why I jsut like it. Or yes maybe a white if it looks nice. I really like the look of motocross helmets =) http://www.dirtbikebitz.com/2009-airoh-stelt-colour-white-p-6843.html This looks nice but damn expensive =( Completed my application today, now need my photo being signed and all done... Complete a CBT and I am done Here comes another question, is CBT done in one day or is it split? And is there tests? Thanks.
The CBT isn't a "test" as such, and there are no written tests or anything like that. You just have to demonstrate that you are proficient enough to ride up to a 124cc machine on the road without being a danger to other road users. You will have to do a few things to an instructors satisfaction - U-turn, figure of 8 and emergency stops (and maybe something else?), plus spending at least two hours out on the roads. If you do your CBT on a twist-and-go, you should get it done in a day - certainly if you already drive a car anyway (it sounds like you don't though). If indeed you don't drive, and are using geared bikes for your CBT, expect to need two days to complete it. Beware of any training school that tells you they can get you done in a day on geared bikes with no previous driving/road experience
