the site seems to be having some problems, try this link it at least seems to get you to the propper site
Hi all....... For those in the UK wanting to sort this Mod out........ Here are the settings you'll need for PowerStrip No offence Bee, but your settings will not work with the PAL version.... :-/ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/themightyspud/LCDPics/psone.jpg Make special note of the resolution............again, Bee, no offence dude, but ignore the 640x480 thing..... you'll need to set a resolution of 720x576 due to the amount of lines and such that PAL displays. Also, to get CSync working, you need to enable it WHILE SETTING THE RESOLUTION. I'll be posting pics of my case tomorrow probably (Gotta borrow Digicam from Boss at work LOL) Hope this helps peeps TheMightySpud
lol none taken, no offence to those that dont read my tutorial to note that the settings specifically will not work with UK PAL LCDs
I can vouch for those pal settings (at least being a good starting point) i used them several months ago when i first wired the display for vga and ive used them again now ive got a new matrox mystique to run it off of and both time theyve worked fine with a little bit of tweaking. I think it was starfox from the mp3car forums that discovered those settings in the first place his site is here http://nakoruru.rudora.net/carcomp/ - click the LCD link
Ok.. I'm running the NTSC version of the PSOne, and I got it to work, but not that great. Here are my timings: PowerStrip timing parameters: 640x480=640,24,56,64,480,6,7,31,12175,312 Generic timing details for 640x480: HFP=24 HSW=56 HBP=64 kHz=16 VFP=6 VSW=7 VBP=31 Hz=30 Linux modeline parameters: "640x480" 12.175 640 664 720 784 480 486 493 524 interlace +hsync +vsync The funny thing is that my hsync and vsync are set to "+", while Bee has "-". the "-" values gave me junk, but the "+" works great.. well.. sorta. Ok.. here are the problems I am still encountering. Maybe someone can help shed some light: 1. The screen is Dim - I set the brightness to max, but it is still alot darker then running a composite signal. Is there anyway to fix this? 2. Clarity is terrible - Bee's screen cap showed that small fonts can be read. My is not legible till about 12 pt. 3. How to make LCD detected by video card as Secondary monitor? From what I've read, it is to be used as primary, but for me.. that isn't feasible. I've heard you can add a resistor, but I have no idea how to do that, if someone can point me to a resource, that would be great!! 4. Now to kill flickering? My LCD flickers like a Mutha. I'm at pix cloxk around 12ish, and refresh around 30. Ok.. if anyone can help or shed some light, that would be great!! Great job everyone. SAD
here's a link. i dont know if its compatible with this mod or not: VGA DUMMY i have noticed this myself. maybe there are different screens that sony use for their psone. (kinda like how sony uses three different dvd drives for their ps2)
Thanks for the quick reply. I looked at the VGA dummy.. and I think it will only work if you are running off composite and not VGA. If you look at the pinout, they have 1-6,2-7,3-8 w/ resistors. The problem is that all those pins are already connected to the PSOne LCD. So based on that, I guess the PC should notice the LCD.. but I guess not. As for the LCD quality.. you are probably right.. Sony probably have different manf for each LCD. Were you able to overcome the flickering issue and how is the brightness for you? Are you runnign NTSC or PAL? Either way, can you post your PS timing? thanks again for the quick reply. SAD
another way to overcome the "not detecting LCD" problem is to get another graphics card. for instance, bee and a few other people on the net seem to have very good results using a Matrox Mystique PCI card to run the lcd. as for the flicker, i had this happen while i was testing out other PCI cards. with interlaced and csync enabled, the screen would flicker when the settings were perfect. without csync, the screen looked fine. i would post my timings, but the screen still isnt working perfectly for me. everything works fine, but csync is off. i believe that because csync is off, the screen will often appear offcentered when my computer restarts. maybe bee can help us out a li'l bit more on this. also, for the people who have this lcd running on a dual display vga card, do you notice any severe system performance drops when you have something (like winamp visualizations) running on the second screen? P.S. Im using NTSC settings
Hmm.. Ok.. here is the setup I'm intending on using: Radeon 9800Pro AGP - DVI 18" LCD, VGA 15" LCD Radeon 7000 PCI - VGA PSOne LCD, nothing on DVI port. I havne't plugged the 7000 into my main sys yet, playing w/ it on another system first, to get the timing. The funny thing is the timing I used on the 9800Pro doesn't carry over to the 7000, which I find kinda weird. So if I plug in the 7000 PCI into my main sys, I shoul see 4 display windows in "Display Properties"? Also, is there a reason why people are using the Matrox? versus any other PCI video card? As for cysnc off.. I can't get clean signal to come through at all. I get nothing but garbage. I know you don't have your timing correct.. but can you post your rough timings, so I have something to work off? If you don't want to post it, can you PM it to me? Thanks for all the help. SAD
i'll be glad to post my timings.... just i have to go home to get them (i am at work right now ) i think everyone is using that matrox card because matrox is known to have very very very VERY good image quality, and because they know for a fact it supports csync. you plan on running the same setup i have, except my pci card is a radeon 9200 SE. there is one major problem with that card. aparently the screen scrambles when you enable interlace (looks like when the old NES games would get all scrambled, and you blew into the cartridge to get any dust out). i saw a website someone posted and it seems this problem is with several versions of the latest radeon drivers. it made me wonder that maybe all the problems i'm having with my display is driver-oriented. which reminds me, im sure everyone else goes to Matrox cards for their rock stable drivers.
Sweet!! I look forward to seeing your timings later tonight. As for the 7000, I have not been able to get a good signal yet, but will try later today. From what I understand, the csync issue causes the image to not be completely centered. I have no idea if the 7000 supports it, but I will see. If all else fails, i'm going to go composite. Image quality is important to me, but brightness is more important. It doesn't help to have a good image quality, if the only way to see it, is by looking directly at it. Also, do you know how to get a TRUE NTSC video signal out of the s-video jack on the video card? When I plug in the PSOne into the S-video jack, I end up getting a black border all around the screen. But when I plug it into the video of my digital cable box, the image is full screen, and looks great!! Can you do multiple desktop with Composite signal? SAD
not to sound mean or anything, but lets continue this conversation on bee's website: http://www.kickassamd.com . if anyone else is interested in this mod, you'll find more information there
Sure.. i can continue the chat over there.. I jsut do it over here, because the site seems to go up and down often, and their isn't as much traffic. But not a problem w/ me. Oh.. since you ask the question about composite. its actually very easy. if you take a look at the board you solder the headers on, you will see there are two jack, a green and a black one. the green is for headphones, and the black is for composite signal. You need to get jack that will fit, which can be found at radio shack. Sorry that I don't konw the specific / technical name for that jack. SAD
you know i noticed that, and it never popped into my head "why are their two headphone jacks". thanks for the info. i plan to try that out later tonight. you are right about www.kickassamd.com, it does seem to go down a lot. but since it is Bee's website, i'm sure he'll pay more attention in his forums than he do on here. :: does free advertising for kickassamd.com ::
Just took a look at kickassamd.com, and my question is still the most recent message Also, since I'm an Intel users.. i thought I might get discriminated against, since I don'thave a kick-ass-amd Anywya.. here is a quote I found from Serio's website, about detecting the LCD: Nb. You also need to join up pins 6, 7 and 8 together, as these are the Red, Green and Blue grounds respectively. The PSOne LCD only has one ground for red, green and blue signals. Tie pins 11 and 4 to ground as well, to ensure your video card detects that a display device is there. Can anyone confirm this? That would make like a hell of a lot easier. Bee doesn't refer to these two pins on his diagram at all. I would try, but I have no idea which pin 11 and 4 to use. Is that from the video cable, or on the PSOne board? Also, it mentions to connect it to ground. Now can that be the same ground as the VGA ground? Or do I need a different ground? Anyway.. i look forward to hearing from anyone that can shed some light SAD
i've had mine set up that way and it does not work. but i believe it will work once you put the resisters from the previous website i posted on those RGB grounds
But the resistors go on the pins that already have wires connected to the PSOne board.. is that ok? SAD
