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Build Advice Recommend me 1080p upgrades

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by GunDam, 24 Oct 2019.

  1. GunDam

    GunDam Minimodder

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    Hi Guys,

    I've been away from the PC building scene for quiet sometime, starting a family and all, I now have more time to myself and am looking to upgrade my 7 year old i5 3570k rig!

    I thought I could squeeze out abit more life from the rig by upgrading the GTX670 with a GTX1660. Although it's made BF5 playable I realise the CPU is bottlenecking the GFX card.

    Can I get help in bridging my knowledge gap by getting recommendations for

    Motherboard
    CPU
    Cooler (quieter the better)
    RAM
    NVMe

    I'm hoping to reuse the current Corsair HX520 PSU, GTX1660 and the Lian Li PC 70 (3x120mm fan vents cut out in top). I want to achieve a stead 50-60 fps in ultra setting at 1080p for BF5 and CoD without being over rigged.
     
  2. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    Questions:
    What's your budget?
    Do you want to by new or used?
    Will you be overclocking?
     
  3. GunDam

    GunDam Minimodder

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    Good point.
    What's your budget - ~ £600
    Do you want to by new or used - New
    Will you be overclocking - No
     
  4. Vault-Tec

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    Ryzen then. 2600 or above.
     
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  5. sandys

    sandys Multimodder

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    If you are buying new then you wouldn't look at Ryzen 2xxx, it would be 3xxx

    with respect to board it will depend on what features you desire, board size etc.

    What ever your do get yourself something with at least 8 threads, Intel or AMD, Intel is still the better gaming chip.

    You extend life of current system by dropping in a 3770k into your existing system, that would pick up the slack as you are probably falling foul of the increased use of CPU threads but only really a good idea if you get it cheap and overclock the pants off of it and you already have good supporting hardware, but if you have low amount (8Gb) of slow RAM then perhaps that is best avoided and make the jump.

    cpu - AMD 3700x/3800x or Intel 9700 ~320
    mobo - AMD X470 or Intel equiv ~100-150 could drop down to lower spec B450 60-100 (you will need to ensure boards have latest bios for 3xxx chips, some shops like cclonline will do this for free if you buy chip and board from them)
    ram - 16GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 ~65
    NVMe SSD - Adata XPG8200Pro 2Tb - ~200 (obviously you can get smaller to save some dough)
    cooler - if not overlocking stock is fine.

    Job more or less done.
     
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  6. Vault-Tec

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    I said 2600 or above. 2600 is very cheap right now. So it depends on what he wants to spend, but note I was just marking a starting point.
     
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    Yeah see £70 difference to the 3600 just ain't worth it, imo.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-...1_1?keywords=ryzen+1700&qid=1571942023&sr=8-1

    Is £2 more than the 3600. Tis a tough one this. If you stream or edit video the 1700 would be the better choice. You may get a few more frames @ 1080p with the 3600 but I'm pretty sure the 1700 would be the victor in threaded apps.

    Either way it won't matter, as there are plenty of more expensive CPUs to upgrade to. So my advice? Don't get a cheap 450 board. Get an X470, reasonably high end, then the VRM can handle 12 or 16 cored CPUs.
     
  8. sandys

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    No, not true for streaming, rendering or even gaming, do not buy a 1st gen, its boost mechanism is garbage compared to 2nd gen and 3rd gen and is a tricky customer when it come to memory support, I say that as a 1st gen owner, though my chip has the highest all core boost of any gen 1 being a 1900x.

    Also as a person who won't overclock a 2600 has low boost, therefore lower performance in games.

    You'd want at least the 2600x for >4.2Ghz but really a 2700x is £179 it is the fastest chip of that gen, it's a much better alternative if you want a cheap good CPU to pair with x470/b450.

    Vault-Tec is not wrong the last gen does represent better value for money at those prices I mean you could have mobo, ram and cpu for less than the latest CPU, you would lose ~15% ultimate performance but save a lot of dough and still be plenty quick enough, nothing troubles my gen 1 running 3.9Ghz, a gen 2 2700x running at a few hundred Mhz more is not to be sniffed at but the latest amd and intel chips mentioned are all significantly faster.

    It could be argued that the extra 8 threads of the AMD would see it in good stead going forward but the Intel chip has the shear grunt needed right now and probably for the next few years.

    A 9700k going by this comparison kicks AMD butt and probably justifies the extra cash as a 1080p gamer who probably won't upgrade again for another 5+ years, 2700x vs 3700x vs 9700k

    It is true that you have to research b450s and x470 for 3xxx to make sure they haven't cheaped out when OCing but running stock mid range 3xxx they should be fine, the only other limitation on b450 is that you can't run 2x8 on pci express, but that is not an issue for many.

    VRM low down for many boards (taken from this thread ) might help you choose, you will see even some x470 boards can't handle the big chips without vrm cooling, they were designed before these chips ever existed, so it's not a surprise.
     
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