/thread It can only take this long on a move if everyone is throwing in modifiers to help/hinder the game (only at the end normally). It depends how badly you want someone else not to win I suppose and how much you want to hurt your friends [in game]. 2 expansion packs is all that is needed for a really diverse game. Change an expansion pack out every 6 months or so if you get bored of it. Get at least 1 expansion pack. There are fast play rules to get things moving quickly. Also there are Epic Levels (free .pdf rulebook) to make things more interesting at the top end.