News Redmond promises Longhorn will be a speedy beast

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/07/19/Longhorn_Performance/

 

Does this beast look 15% quicker to you?


i'll tell you what, you mock that OX there and when he starts chasing you we'll clock his speed and clock yours and see who win's. DEAL?

LOL

Honestly i think MSFT could fall, sooner than expected, but im not sure how Longhorn will fair so i'll wait and look

 

Is it still fast after 6 months of bloat? A year of bloat?

buy a mac

 

It'll be slower than ever, without question. Always has, always will be. And now that the general public is becoming slightly more computer-savvy, it'll bite them in the ass like it never did before.

 

yes firehed, thankfully we have you here to give us an informed view.

Longhorn was designed to be the next, next gen OS, its kernel is incredibly flexible its really impressive.... on paper.

The problem is hardware hasn't really gone were it should, as avid animus readers will know i like digital electronics, and CPUs make me cry at how marcheture they've become. WinFS has died because HDD consumers have been accepting single drives. This time 5 years ago we were been told we'd be running RAIDs on a single drive by now (each platter a drive in effect, not sure how tracking worked, but it sounded impressive). Even haters of MS have to say WinFS is a damn exciting idea.

Managed Code front. JIT, now JIT is an intresting subject, slower to load? or fast because the JIT-er knows your CPU and how to get the most from it. If you don't know what JIT is google it and ".net" Explorer will be replaced (finally) with something in purely managed code. This should be neato.

Myself i never expect a new OS to be faster, i expect it to be better. The reason i loved RISC OS, was because i think WIMP is a great inferace method for my desktop, my laptop, my pda, my smart phone. Everything but my remotely controlled server. Now everything using full hardware acceleration (at present only 'overlay' video, and Alpha blending is HW accerlated iirc). Thats going to be a speed improvement.

Myself i'm going to wait until i get my hands on it, before i start slating it with un-informed views.s

 

OK, let's just look at the bullet points from the article:

Hmmm...not exactly sure how this is going to happen. Surely most of the launch time is taken up actually loading the app off disk?

Presumably this doesn't actually include the BIOS POST? Currently, my PC takes 30s to get past the POST - something which Microsoft have no control over...

erm...wasn't this promised for XP?

eh? what?

How? My IT department certainly isn't going to get any quicker - a PC is still going to take 1-2hrs to install from scratch, when you include all of the additional bumf that needs to be installed, like drivers & apps. I don't see how MS can make this 75% faster?

I'll wait and see (like TheAnimus, I'm not ready to consign it to the bin yet), but I'd take any claims from MS with quite a large pinch of salt

 

#1, no. What happens is your computer has to load an application and its dependancies (think dll's). Now in NT each library is shared until its modified, in which case its then unique for the proccess (okay getting a shade technical now), but a typical "hello world" application thats WIMP, will need about 10 calls to LoadLibrary. This is a big time issue. They can speed this up, they can also do this sort of thing pre-emptivly.

#2, yup BIOS isn't going to be changed, but the software side is ment to be faster

#3 erm, in Longhorn, the kernel has the abality to swap modules (allows patching without rebooting), this is really nifty, no other mainstream OS can even begin to do this, as a programmer who makes a fair few device drivers, this is great for developement too. Don't under-estimate how good that is, remeber that well over 90% of BSODs are caused by a bad device driver (its impossible to BSOD from usermode enless you dupe a device driver!).

#4, never belive stuff like that, reducing the number of images, means images get bigger

#5
no idea, i would of thought with a domain model it took no effort to migrate machines.

 

awwwww, ya beat me to it!

 

yea that way your computer starts slow and stays that way

 

Just wanted to add, that XP does require less reboots then windows 2000 (ie when changing network settings etc in 2k, you'd have to reboot, which isn't the case in XP). I imagine the article also refers to those type of reboots too. I'm guessing you wouldn't have to reboot after installing apps as often either.

 

Erm 2k you didn't have to reboot for network settings, nor NT4 (i'm 80% sure u didn't have to reboot to join a domian either).

Now as it stands you shouldn't need to reboot after installing an app enless:
the app is doing something naughty, like playing with other peoples drivers
it has to install its own driver, and they cheaped out on the installer developement, and use a reboot to help get all the USB endpoint drivers installed.

 

half the apps that want you to reboot dont need you to anyway, i always say dont reboot and try it to see if i really need to reboot

 

Ok, my mistake!
But i'm sure that as each new MS O/S has appeared tere have been fewer reboots required by the system after making various changes / installing components / updating IE etc.

 

and they diched the new file system


i don't realy care much about longhorn... unless i don't have to pay for it...

i know the prices will proberly be rediclious too...

edit: also is it me or was longhorn promised by latest early this year?