Build Advice Refurbished Q6600 System or New E5200?

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  1. ClaretCharlie

    ClaretCharlie c_doc

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    Hi,

    I'm stuck!

    I've got 2 options next week and i'm unsure which to take.
    I'm buying a new PC, meant to buy one 4 months ago but didnt happen.

    So here are my options, either of which would be a massive improvement on the system i have now:
    A refurbished Phillips HEPC 7511 system
    Intel® Core 2 Quad Q6600
    MSI 7357 motherboard
    2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 (2x 1GB MB)
    400GB SATA II hard drive
    nVidia® GeForce 8500 GT 256MB (with TurboCache) PCI-Express

    OR

    Intel Rogue 540 from yoyotech
    H770 ATX Case, 500W ATX PSU
    ATX Motherboard (couldn't find out model)
    Intel Dual Core e5200
    Freezer 7 Pro cooler
    4Gb DDR2
    500 Gb SataII HDD
    Radeon 4670 512Mb DDR2


    Now i know that the quad-core system would beat the e5200 but i've read on here that the e5200 overclocks beautifully too and wondered how the Freezer 7 pro would perform.
    Plus would the MS-7357 motherboard be upto the task on the quad core system?

    Also i read somewhere that the case size for the Phillips system might be a problem if i wanted to upgrade the graphics card so i guess that would be a strike against it.

    I know which one i'm leaning towards but would like your advice.

    the final thing to consider is price.
    The quad core will cost me about £300 inc Vat + del
    and the e5200 costing £420 inc VAT+ del.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    the e5200 overclocks well in a decent motherboard, so expecting to overclock it on an OEM board in a pre-build is a little far out.

    However i would still pick the e5200 system as its not a philips build.
     
  3. bigsharn

    bigsharn Officially demotivated

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    I'd go quad... new motherboard, RAM, and a Freezer 7 pro can be bought for under £120 so you mightaswell go for the quad... give it a while longer you can just transfer the computer to a new case anyway
     
  4. ClaretCharlie

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    honestly, i was leaning towards the e5200 but i think your idea's better bigsharn.

    Could buy an e2160 or something to put onto the quads old motherboard and replace the AMD motherboard and psu in my current system with that. Would breathe a little more life into it.
    I'd probably replace the 2Gb ram thats in with 2x2Gb branded and put the 2x1Gb i've removed into the system i've already got too.

    Sounds like a plan.
     
  5. Cupboard

    Cupboard I'm not a modder.

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    What is your budget? There is little point in buying a new computer then immediately replacing bits.
    IMO, if you want a gaming computer, the second one is better as the processor has a higher clock speed and the graphics card is better.
    Looking on yoyotech, the one you linked to is £400. if you didn't mind building a computer yourself, something based on the bit-tech affordable hardware recommendations would be good.

    This doesn't have an OS and I haven't shopped around for prices, but would be a good basis if you didn't mind doing it yourself
    [​IMG]

    ooh, you need to add a cooler - one of the Akasa ones for £14 would be good
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/06/16/heatsink-testing-overview/4
     
  6. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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  7. tonpal

    tonpal What's a Dremel?

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    The system Cupboard suggested looks pretty good. I would spend an extra £8 to get the E5200 instead of the E2200 though.
     
  8. bigsharn

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    If you're building your own go novatech... they are (for the mostpart) cheaper than Scan
     
  9. ClaretCharlie

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    i did look at the £400 gaming system built by bit-tech which is a decent system but how does this look.

    antec 300 - £47
    antec earthwatts ea 650 - £40
    Biostar TPower i45 - £111
    OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC6400 Titanium Memory CL4(4-4-4-15) - £40
    Sapphire 512MB HD 4850 512MB - £120
    Intel e5200 CPU - £62

    So i'll have a good gaming system, nothing special plus an Intel E5200 dual core 2.5Ghz, 2Gb DDR2 ram, 160 HDD, Geforce 8500 GT 256MB pc. For £720. not to shabby.

    Or i could replace the hard drive (£30 for 160GB SATA-II) and flog it. How much would it fetch?
     
  10. ClaretCharlie

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    it'll overclock like a bitch too.:naughty:
     
  11. jhanlon303

    jhanlon303 The Keeper of History

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    I run a Q6600 stock as a stove. It runs 24/7 and I use it for web, video playback(not HD), M$ office, email, and a whole lot of Linux tool chain compiles with CVS. Vista 32 bit. Nothing special but rock solid! I would offer an OEM Q6600 system as a stable base to 'make better'.
    My $0.02

    john
     
  12. cpemma

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    Without a doubt...double the cache, faster, cooler. :thumb:
     
  13. Cupboard

    Cupboard I'm not a modder.

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    Good idea :)
    I am a bit confused by your latest post CC - are you suggesting buying one of the pre-made systems as well as the extra stuff? That would seem a little silly IMO
     
  14. ClaretCharlie

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    the extra stuff would replace the rubbish stuff in the pre-built system and the rubbish stuff would go with the extra processor to make a decent enough system which i could sell for around £200-£300 (probably lower end) that way i'll get a pretty good gaming system for £720ish minus whatever i sell the other system for.
    Plus i'll have had a little fun rebuilding them.

    Even if i dont sell it the value for money isn't bad. I think so anyway. Might be wrong.
     
  15. HarisF1

    HarisF1 What's a Dremel?

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    Hi Guys, I was searching for the E5200 on Google and came across this thread. I think I can input my own story here too. I recently bought this system, that I'm going to build myself, for under £600. It is a very good gaming system with a lot of potential, and now is worth around £650 due to price rises. The parts haven't arrived yet but when they do, I'm looking at a top OC'd system:

    My budget was £600, and I stretched quite a bit to get it there...

    I was initially looking at the Q6600 with a low end card (future upgrade), but the price rises forced me to look elsewhere, so here it is:

    Motherboard: Asus P5Q-E - £100 + £7 P&P (Bought earlier)

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...id=0&tid=p5q-e

    Case: Antec Three Hundred - £40

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...761345-08300-3

    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E5200 - £63

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...d=bx80571e5200

    PSU: Cooler Master Real Power M700 - £80

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...rs-700-asaa-a1

    Cooler: Akasa 965 - £14

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...d=0&tid=ak-965

    Graphics Card: Sapphire ATi 4830 512MB - £90

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...d=11147-00-20r

    Hard Disk Drive: WD Caviar Blue 320MB - £34

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...tid=wd3200aajs

    Keyboard/Mouse: Optical mouse and Keyboard - £14

    DDR2 Memory: Geil 4GB Black Dragon Dual Channel - £37

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...gb24gb6400c5dc

    Monitor: 19" Hanns-G Widescreen LCD - £80

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...=0&tid=hg191ap

    Wireless USB: Netgear WG111 - £17

    http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...id=0&tid=wg111

    DVDRW: Generic DVDRW Drive - £15
     

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