Yes I have seen people high, a lot of people in fact. They all irritated the hell out of me, perfectly reasonable nice human beings turned into complete ********s.
Agreed with that one; i think people should be allowed to do what they like in their own homes; provided it doesn't infringe on someone elses life; e.g. living next door to someone who plays extremely loud music and throws hypo needles around like litter etc... In public is a completely different thing and anyone making a legislation about this is going to get flak from many many different camps of people; each with different views.
Just from a view of curiousity, Mr Stormont, have you ever smoked, eaten or otherwise partaken of cannabis, hashish or variant thereof? *n
Would it be correct to therefore assume that you lack the empirical experiance of it's effect and you are basing your moral objection toward it on one or two bad experiances with people who just happened to be high when they were acting like a wang toward you? I know people who are absolute dicks who eat soup...I don't eat soup because I don't like it... I don't however assume that all people who eat soup are Satan incarnate and are hell bent on killing everyone with their passive eating and slurping much as you seem to with those who choose to use cannabis so with their passive smoking tendancies and their passive hash brownie eating tendancies.. *n
dude you're confusing canabis with alcohol or something [or you only think you've seen someone who's 'high'] - no person when stoned turns into an 'absolute ********'. ...
JStormant is perfectly entitled to be against cannabis use, but if you ask any policeman in the UK if he'd rather run in a toker or a drunk, he'll reply the former every time. Don't worry - the relaxed legislation will make cannabis use optional and not compulsory, and I don't think that civilisation will take a major downturn because of it. As long as it's used responsibly of course. It may well be beneficial in the long run as its medical use as an analgesic can be properly researched without stigma. Group buy on sodium lamps anyone ?
First, they could start manufacturing filtered joints or filtered bongs. Or everyone would use the hooka-like things, I hear those are pretty clean too [ albeit big ]. But yes, it can defenitely lead to depression. I have a friend who is seeing a therapist and has no idea why, but he used to be a big smoker and a dealer. Reformed due to a gf's pressuring and some of his cleaner friends. Also his parents finding everything But yes, it definitely does. And he used to be a huge supporter of it. No longer
Hmm let me see, well 7 out of the 12 people on my corridor at uni smoked weed, in addition two of my best friends at uni smoked weed and in addition to that I also spent sometime around some inner city London girls when I was 16 who smoked weed. My moral objection to it came mainly from seeing a 13yr old girl when I was 16 who was completely gone. Her 16yr old friends had got her into it and she smoked far too much of the stuff. If you have ever looked in a girls eyes expecting to see them bright and full of youth and instead being met by a dead, vacant zombified look you would have some objections to. My moral objections continued at uni when I knew several people who ended up in some very bad **** after using weed as a stepping stone to harder drugs, such as cocaine. In addition I knew another couple of girls who ended up using it as crux and it made them incredibly depressed, to the point where one girl left to go home because she couldn't take it anymore. Both of them got addicted to it and one has been working hard (when I last spoke to her) to kick it. People are ********s when they take it not because they become violent, but because they cease to care.
At last! Yes it can lead to depression,it can also lead to schizophrenia (especially in people who are borderline schizophrenic)and it IS addictive.If cannabis is legalized now who is to say that a couple of decades down the line we won't have a generation of people with serious mental problems and who will pick up the tab for the stoners self indulgence?The NHS is stretched as it is without that extra burden. Anyway if pot was legalised they most probably would'nt sell it in blocks of hash or bags of skunk,it would come in pre-rolled joints and would work out more expensive and it would still be illegal to purchase "street" pot or grow it as you would be defrauding the taxman. Keep it cheap,keep it illegal!
Odd...I was a diagnosed schizoid before I ever took anything. You have to be careful with those sorts of comparisons. Instead of weed leading to shizophrenia...Maybe those who are of the schizophrenic type are more likely to lean towards the use of weed. *n
Nobody said it was the sole cause of Schizophrenia and your 2nd statement is quite ridiculous. Again another stoner hiding their head in a fug of cannabis smoke and denying the(medical) facts.
What is so 'quite ridiculous' about it?, I have a great deal of knowledge in the area of Abnormal Psychology and I can say with certainty that what Penski is saying is true. The only thing I see on this page that is ridiculous is far fetched bigoted generalizations.
What!People who suffer from schizophrenia will be drawn to cannabis because of their illness.How does that work? Edit:Took me 10 minutes to find this would have been quicker getting this if I hadn't got disconnected(curse you dial up).
Discounting it without backing makes me think you'll just believe any old pseudo-science. It would help to have some proper science carried out, far too often people neglect aspects for convienence. Only a few days ago the paper was reporting that eating fish reduces the risks of people becoming murderers, it's sensationalist and ignored the fact that the test group were also subjected to other experiences, which were discounted for some reason. The moral of the story is not to believe anyone or anything Alaric.
Sorry man but this sounds stupid. I have experience with it. I can tell you it sux. I had a lotta friends, and they wanted more experience and took hard drugs. They turned into junkies. So dont lecture somebody on lacking "experience" because of moral objections. I respect him and think cannabis should be banned together with all other drugs. Medicinal issues? Extract the carabinols, but dont use this argument to legalize something that screws up friendships an lives!
And another thing. You ever "experienced" the difference between Nederwiet and the crapp stuff you get in England? No? The concentration of THC in Nederwiet (DUTCH CANNABIS) is so high it has nearly the same effect of LSD 20 years ago. A few more years and the stuff will be so powerfull that its a harddrug