Discussion in 'Modding' started by sinizterguy, 22 Mar 2003.
They are the same thing.
use a dremel to cut the pins off?
you need a diamond re enforces drilling bit to drill with a drill... :: cheese :: done it that way....
I have to get one myself to drill my pentium_75
good idea.... may do that with this TB 1.4 that I've got no idea if it works... suppose i should figure that out first prior to casting it in resin eh?
I have a new keychain candidate... Blew up a 2000+ this week...
This was my attempt at cutting a hole in a P75...
Pretty hard to cut through the old ones..
just solder a loop of wire to the pins, instant keyring.
First, w/ the heatsink (normally) you're just smashing the top of the die.
With this, you're going all the way through the chip.
You can smash the chip to bits by hitting it with a hammer, but to get one precise hole all the way through is extremely difficult. Unless you have a really nice drill bit it either A)won't scratch the surface or B)will shatter it.
would a 'tile and glass' drill bit work?
im interested in this too, and theyre only £6.98 at b&q
just gotta try find the drill
I was thinking this too.
couldn't you very slowly grind away at it with a stone polisher type thing?
the little square in the center, the core/die should be the only real tough part. The stuff the pins are in is an organic sobstrate that carry the BGA connections to pins so it can be used in a socket. This part is a lot like a PCB. A drill should be able to cut through this stuff.
The core on the other hand, is a silicon substrate (hard, but also fragile) with silicon dioxide grown on it, as silicon nitrides depositied on it. On top of this, tungsten, titanium and molybendum are common metals used to make interconnect structires. That core is a pretty tough little thing.
The newer 'organics' should be piercable by any drill. The older ceramics, like P100's and pretty well anything up till the athlon XP's is unpiercable. I tried Titanium, cobalt, normal metal bits, I tried doing a pilot hole, tried to go straight in with a good sized bit. (incidentally doing a really good job of getting rid of all of the pins.) The only bit I didnt try was a concrete/ceramic bit and that was because the only concrete bit I had was 3/4". But yeah a ceramic bit should work...
I believe someone around here had one done with an 'Ultrasonic drill'
You could always do what i did?
Glue 2 chips together, assumming you have 2
then screw a loop in one end.
Enjoy, Just an idea and it hasn't fallen apart yet
ooh nice idea.
Ive tried drilling 486 CPU's in the past to no avail
Mebbe i'll give your method a go
i went strait through a p4 1.3 ghz with a brad point, of course, that different i think. Il have a go at my socket 5 pentium 60 soon.
what i thought was to use a pillar drill & weight the handle so it brought the bit to touching the material but no with too much pressure, then put it on teh slowest speed possible & jsut let it slowly & i men really really slwoly go though but rememberign to put drilling compound by the bit
the only problem with this is it coudl take hours or even days & you would need to be near the drill while it worked (common sense) & you would need to weight ti in a way that kept the same amoutn of pressure agaisnt the chip right throughout the prcessor
you would laso need to find away to keep the bit in good health as i actually treid the before, made a dint in a 468 but the brill bit snapped as it go too hot
guys guys guys your making faarrrr too much work out of this
The AthlonXP is made from an organic substrate. This stuff is dead easy to drill though...I just used an ordinary wood drill bit to get through a PIII, which is the same kinda stuff. I don't think he will have problems unless he actually has an original athlon (Tbird), they are ceramic and pretty much impossible to drill through!
To get the pins off, I just twisted them with a pair of pliers. Worked quite nicely!
like phoenix said, i had no problem drilling through my XP 1700+, just used a wood drill bit.
Oh and as for the pins, used wire cutters, then used a file to smooth the whole thing down, not too much hard work really.
I drilled a hole right through mine using a generic small drill bit and I drilled where one of those small black spacer pads are.
Bu trust me remove the pins as I havent and I have some nasty scratches to show for it.
Just thought this might help.
i did a p166 (it has the organic substrate stuff) nice result, oh yea pulled all the pins out with my leatherman pliers
looks good will get a piccy if u like.
used a dimond bit on an old 486dx (a lot of them) and they smasghed and then bluntened the drill bit!
if you can get a hole in one it would be a really crap key ring anyway if you treat ur keys like i do, throwing them around will smash the chip to smitherines, i have have 7 intel pentium (ceramic chips lying around dud) if any one is interested will sell for £2 each (may as well make some profit).
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