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Music Roger Waters - Greatest Vocalist ever?

Discussion in 'General' started by GuitarBizarre, 3 Oct 2007.

  1. GuitarBizarre

    GuitarBizarre <b>banned</b>

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    I know it sounds stupid, you're probably thinking 'Roger Waters? Pink Floyd were good but he's not that good a singer'

    And you'd be right, if it weren't for one thing. The live Version of Hey You, from Pulse Live.


    It really hammers home just how good a lyricist he is, on top of that, the second half just blows me away. waters has always sounded melancholy and sad, but its just unbelievable. Just that one section screams out. It really makes you feel like he's this lonely, sad individual with no-one in his life, a dead end job, a small flat, and absolutely nothing and no-one to live for, who just keeps plodding on through life because he has no other choice. Its just so incredibly desperate and powerful. Every time I listen to it I have to listen again, just to hear him screaming that one verse like a man possessed.

    Hey you, out there beyond the wall, breaking bottles in the hall, can ya help me?
     
  2. mookboy

    mookboy BRAAAAAAP

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    The Final Cut is one of my all time favourite albums.
     
  3. GuitarBizarre

    GuitarBizarre <b>banned</b>

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    Wish You Were Here.
     
  4. dom_

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    I know this may seem like a thread crap, just i can not stand pink floyd. Many people are better, try little feat - teenage nervous breakdown

    some contend that rock and roll is bad for
    the body and bad for the soul
    bad for the heart bad for the mind
    bad for the deaf bad for the blind
    makes some men crazy and then they
    talk like fools makes some men crazy
    and then they start to drool

    unscrupulous operators could confuse
    could exploit and decieve conditional
    reflex theories and change probabilities
    it's crass and rockous crackass place with
    pavlov on the human race it's a terrible
    illness it's a terrible case and usually
    permanent when it takes place
    it's a teenage nervous breakdown
    it's a teenage nervous breakdown
    it's a tenenerve nervetene
    it's a tennenervenerna whoa!

    Any one who can make lyrics with "reflex theories" and "pavlov" in deserves a medal.
     
  5. GuitarBizarre

    GuitarBizarre <b>banned</b>

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    Transient jet lag ecto mimed bison
    This is the haunt of roulette dares
    Ruse of metacarpi
    Caveat emptor....to all that enter here
    Open wrists talk back again
    In the wounded of its skin
    They'll pinprick the witness
    In ritual contrition
    The am trinity fell upon asphyxia-derailed
    In the rattles of...
    Made its way through the tracks
    Of a snail slouching whisper
    A half mass comute through umbilical blisters
    Spector will lurk
    Radar has gathered
    Midnight nooses from boxcar cadavers
    Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
    Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
    It's because this is
    Cranial bleeding
    Leaches train the living
    Cursed are they who speak its name
    Ruse of metacarpi
    Caveat emptor to all that enter here
    Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
    Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
    It's because this is
    Ratteling the laughter
    Hinges splintering inside
    Bludgeoned to a saddle
    Rang the cloister bell inside
    inside
    inside
    Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
    Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
    it's because this is
     
  6. dom_

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    What does that mean? It is just a collection of words, it tells me nothing.
     
  7. E.E.L. Ambiense

    E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic

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    Actually, it's Mars Volta. Dig it. :thumb:
     
  8. GuitarBizarre

    GuitarBizarre <b>banned</b>

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    Exactly. Complicated lyrics dont mean anything to most people. Just like I don't care about Pavlov, you probably don't care about Cerpin Tax, a fictional being who feasts on the souls of people in coma's. Without a grounding meaning, lyrics mean nothing to me, hence why I prefer to think of Volta lyrics as another instrument, rather than a vocal line.

    Waters lyrics and delivery actually man something, instead of just being collections of ideologies and descriptions, theres something deep underneath them that resonates with something more substantial than political views.

    Hey You and The Wall in general actually mean something to me because they deal with oppression and the journey of this one sad figure from birth through life as it wears him down and frays his psyche until eventually he breaks down and snaps under the weight of societys expectations and rules. To me, the personal themes and the kind of reflection on how fragile the human mind is, the delicate balance between individuality and conformity, acceptance and ridicule, (The Trial) that gets me a lot more involved in the music than a comparatively simple little tune about a single stressful time of life, coupled with a paragraph or so on the bands ideology.


    Don't get me wrong however, I love music as an emotional tool, its just that in the case of lyrics, its almost impossible to express properly whats meant. or every punk band who have made songs and raged on about anger and dissapointment, none of them have ever managed to capture the sense of desperation and despair that waters brings to the forefront of the wall.
     
  9. Bungle

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    Can't really comment on Pink Floyd as I've not really heard much of them. I found these guys RUSH are pretty good with the Lyrics, they cover quite a range of subjects aswell.
    Recommend the albums
    Power Windows
    Presto
    A show of hands (live album).
     
  10. peteone

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    Excelent me too, followed closely by The pros and cons of hitchhiking :)
     
  11. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Live Wish you were here, but I would certainly say that others are as good as Roger Waters. Right off the top of my head Adam Duritz of Counting Crows and Steven Tyler of Aerosmith come to mind.
     
  12. Flibblebot

    Flibblebot Smile with me

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Roger Waters didn't sing on the Pulse tour (assuming you're talking about the 1994 concert). That was David Gilmour singing.
     
  13. Nedsbeds

    Nedsbeds Badger, Slime, Weasel!!

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    Hehe, great topic for a thread. Hes my idol, and I find my bass playing is very much influenced by his.
     
  14. GuitarBizarre

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    *shrug* If thats the case then change the thread title, I'm going on the live album, dunno who sang on it I just assumed it was waters.

    Ok I just checked amazon and it isn't waters, doesnt say who it is though.
     
  15. E.E.L. Ambiense

    E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic

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    Gilmore, of course! :thumb:
     
  16. Fophillips

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    No, he's shite.
     
  17. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

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    It's Gilmour. Had I noticed this thread earlier, I'd have added that correction myself. :) Waters left the band before the album "Momentary Lapse of Reason" and didn't return. Well, he did come back to do a performance of The Wall live in 1989 for the falling of the Berlin Wall. But that's it.
     
  18. E.E.L. Ambiense

    E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic

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    Technically, Waters played with all the other guys for Live 8. For the record, I thought they sounded kinda...well....eh... But it was complete Floyd, minus Barrett of course.
     
  19. Da Dego

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    True, but no further album contribs. I honestly forgot all about the live 8 thing! thanks for the reminder :)
     
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