Realistic yet naive at the same time. A man who says "Ukraine is not a real country" clearly never had any intention of having a free & independent Ukraine at his border, even a neutral one. I dare say that this move had been planned since before the Russo-Georgian war of 2008. While we were equipping for "The war of tomorrow'' in the middle east, he was revamping the Russian army for a war in Europe. Then came Trump who tried to undermine NATO since day one. We've been played.
Reportedly 145 Russian paratroopers were banned from SWIFT near Vasylkiv. The EU can at least do it for the other 120 million Russians
You know very well this is not the same thing I'm not entirely sure why you're going down this route.
If anything this has reignited the debate about joining NATO in Finland, there wasn't really any talk of it before. Maybe Sweden should go on the offensive and retake St Petersburg. Edit: Plus last time they tried using a massive force to beat a smaller Finnish force the got their asses kicked so do one Putin.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/595923-russian-space-chief-threatens-iss-over-sanctions Threating to crash the ISS into USA or Europe.....because sanctions.
Well.. Threatening to let it crash. I think that's important phrasing, really, given that your phrasing implies some maniacal dickhead piloting the ISS into a target. The actual tweets in question; Tweet— Twitter API (@user) date Tweet— Twitter API (@user) date Tweet— Twitter API (@user) date Translation provided by google (They're part of a chain as you can see, so the start and end rambles out of and into some other stuff); This is how you already do it by limiting exchanges between our cosmonaut and astronaut training centers. Or do you want to manage the ISS yourself? Maybe President Biden is off topic, so explain to him that the correction of the station's orbit, its avoidance of dangerous rendezvous with space .. garbage, with which your talented businessmen have polluted the near-Earth orbit, is produced exclusively by the engines of the Russian Progress MS cargo ships. If you block cooperation with us, who will save the ISS from an uncontrolled deorbit and fall into the United States or... Europe? There is also the option of dropping a 500-ton structure to India and China. Do you want to threaten them with such a prospect? The ISS does not fly over Russia, so all the risks are yours. Are you ready for them? Gentlemen, when planning sanctions, check those who generate them for illness So sure, he's probably a crackhead fan of the war - But he didn't exactly threaten to crash the ISS.
And you may not be aware that viewing such material is actively harmful. As harmful as sawing off your foot? No, that was hyperbole. Harmful? Absolutely. Sources: Mental- and physical-health effects of acute exposure to media images of the September 11, 2001, attacks and the Iraq War, DOI: 10.1177/0956797612460406: "These findings suggest that exposure to graphic media images may result in physical and psychological effects previously assumed to require direct trauma exposure." Media Exposure to Collective Trauma, Mental Health, and Functioning: Does It Matter What You See?, DOI: 10.1177/2167702619858300: "Media exposure to collective trauma is associated with acute stress (AS) and posttraumatic stress symptoms (PTSS). [...] Greater exposure to graphic (bloody) images was associated with higher W1 AS and increased PTSS, fear of future terrorism, and functional impairment at W2. W1 AS, W2 PTSS, and fear of future terrorism mediated the association between media and functional impairment. Graphic image exposure is associated with mental-health symptoms linked to impaired functioning." Media Coverage of Terrorism: A Meta-Analytic Assessment of Media Use and Posttraumatic Stress, DOI: 10.1177/107769900908600408: "Overall, a significant effect size (r = .152) for exposure to coverage of terrorism and PTS was found. Studies assessing PTS symptoms/reactions found greater effect sizes than studies assessing PTS disorder; studies assessing multiple media were associated with greater effects than those limited to television; youth samples yielded greater effects than adult samples; and studies of samples located farther away found greater effects than those of samples in the same city as the event." Media’s role in broadcasting acute stress following the Boston Marathon bombings, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1316265110: "Media coverage of collective traumas may trigger psychological distress in individuals outside the directly affected community. [...] Repeated bombing-related media exposure was associated with higher acute stress than was direct exposure." The relationship between exposure to terror through the media, coping strategies and resources, and distress and secondary traumatization, DOI: 10.1037/a0027864: "The main results showed that higher media exposure during terror attacks was related positively to higher levels of distress and posttraumatic symptoms. [...] These data suggest that the media, which tends to magnify and reinforce the effects of terror acts, can prompt secondary traumatization, and demonstrate the importance of an awareness of the risks of vicarious exposure to terror and trauma through the media." Television Watching and the Risk of Incident Probable Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, DOI: 10.1097/01.nmd.0000244784.36745.a5: "A cohort of New Yorkers without baseline probable PTSD (N = 1787) was assessed 1 year following the September 11, 2001, attacks. The primary outcome was new-onset probable PTSD assessed through a validated scale, and the primary exposure was number of hours of September 11 anniversary news coverage viewed." Cumulative Exposure to Prior Collective Trauma and Acute Stress Responses to the Boston Marathon Bombings, DOI: 10.1177/0956797614561043: "Cumulative direct and indirect, live-media-based exposure to 9/11, Superstorm Sandy, and the Sandy Hook shooting were positively associated with acute stress responses in the covariate-adjusted model." Is television traumatic? Dreams, stress, and media exposure in the aftermath of September 11, 2001, DOI: 10.1111/j.1467-9280.2007.01900.x: "Because of the study's within-subjects design, the results provide evidence for a direct association between television viewing and subsequent increases in stress and trauma." Television Images and Probable Posttraumatic Stress Disorder After September 11, DOI: 10.1097/01.nmd.0000116465.99830.ca: "Television viewing has been associated with posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) symptoms after disasters and traumas; we examined characteristics that may explain this association among New Yorkers after September 11, 2001. [...] Television may merit consideration as a potential exposure to a traumatic event." MEDIA EXPOSURE AND SYMPATHETIC NERVOUS SYSTEM REACTIVITY PREDICT PTSD SYMPTOMS AFTER THE BOSTON MARATHON BOMBINGS, DOI: 10.1002/da.22282: "Terrorist attacks have been shown to precipitate posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) symptomatology in children and adolescents, particularly among youths with high exposure to media coverage surrounding such events." Television Images and Psychological Symptoms after the September 11 Terrorist Attacks, DOI: 10.1521/psyc.65.4.289.20240: "Exposure to graphic television images may exacerbate psychological symptoms in disaster situations. [...] Respondents who repeatedly saw 'people falling or jumping from the towers of the World Trade Center' had higher prevalence of PTSD (17.4%) and depression (14.7%) than those who did not (6.2% and 5.3%, respectively)." Disaster Media Coverage and Psychological Outcomes: Descriptive Findings in the Extant Research, DOI: 10.1007/s11920-014-0464-x: "There is good evidence establishing a relationship between disaster television viewing and various psychological outcomes, especially PTSD caseness and PTS, but studies are too few to draw definitive conclusions about the other forms of media coverage that have been examined." Media exposure to mass violence events can fuel a cycle of distress, DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.aav3502: "The established link between trauma-related media exposure and distress may be cyclical: Distress can increase subsequent trauma-related media consumption that promotes increased distress to later events. [...] Trauma-related media exposure perpetuates a cycle of high distress and media use." Understanding the Mental Health Effects of Indirect Exposure to Mass Trauma Through the Media, DOI: 10.1001/jama.2011.1358: "Since the advent of 24-hour television news, exposure to mass violence and natural disasters through the media is even more widespread. Although exposure to trauma has a wide range of psychopathological consequences, posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) has been shown to be the most common." Happy to pull up more, if you need it.
The object lesson being: never argue with a professional journalist. They have entire databases of research material to slap you around the head with.
No, but seriously, everyone: don't seek out footage. Don't share footage. You're not daft, you can imagine what happens when a missile hits someone on a bike. Imagining it is bad enough, don't poison yourself with the actual footage. PTSD, acute stress, depression: they might not be as obvious as a missing foot, but they'll take years off your life nevertheless. Stay informed, but stay safe.
I will repeat the plea to not post footage in this thread, please. Regardless of what you think of it or how you feel about it, you do not speak for everyone.
Yup. Stumbled into more than a few bits of footage that needed noping right the hell out of. Horrible that it's happening, but senseless to dive down that rabbit hole of suffering for.. Well, no reason. We already know that it's a ****-fest and utterly wrong.
I don't use Farcebook, Instabollocks or Tik Tok and, have my Tw@tter account locked down tight. Get my news from the BBC.
I don't watch that **** on principle. I feel that it is voyeuristic and disrespectful to the victim and holds the same status in my mind as snuff movies. Big NOPE. Moreover, I've been exposed to enough accounts and visuals of human suffering at work to last me a lifetime.
I'd like to add that any posts containing injury from the Russian invasion of Ukraine is banned unless it includes an SR71 or a B-2 Spirit hitting Putin. Although this is a place for discussion and we respect all opinions. I highly recommend not posting support of Russia or I will impose post sanctions on your account
I'm reading, listening and thinking about this. Even though you to some extent see it coming, the actuality of someone awful is different to the likely prospect of it. There is an argument that this has changed the world in a way that other awful and tragic events haven't. In part of course by revealing or crystallising things that were already true. This morning I listened to the Neoliberal Podcast (US, left of centre) Tweet— Twitter API (@user) date He laid out the case that we have a conflict between liberalism and illiberalism with Russia, China, and right wing and left wing populists one side and liberal democracy on the other. And that this will be the struggle for the next decades. It's not a great prospect, but it isn't a fight you will win by avoiding or ignoring it.
+1 There's plenty of scope for finding footage for those who seek it, but a mothballed modding site probably isn't the right place.
