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CPU Ryzen 5 2600 & R7 2700X Benchmarks leaked

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by true_gamer, 20 Feb 2018.

  1. true_gamer

    true_gamer Well-Known Member

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    Those are some seriously promising scores if they're to be believed. Looking forward to the final scores on stable boards (and some final scores for Ryzen 1 now that a year has gone by.)
     
  3. Wakka

    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    Be interesting to see how much of those score increases are down to IPC improvement and not just Precision Boost 2.0 upping clocks.

    I won't get excited about Ryzen+ until I see all core overclocks and like-for-like/clock-for-clock tests. I wouldn't mind if IPC gains were only 5%~ if these can do 4.2-4.5Ghz all core at reasonable voltage, anything below that is a fail.
     
  4. true_gamer

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    I would say it's a lot more believable, than the 5.1GHz 2800X with 12 cores malarkey... A modest 200Mhz up with the same TDP, and a 31% multi thread increase, is not to be sniffed at. So if these results are led to be true, then we should expect the 2800X to be clocked at 3.8 - 4.2GHz Turbo.
     
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    The really interesting info will be if the 2700X / 2800X are actually superior to the 2700 unlike the 1700X / 1800X that offer zero benefit over the 1700.
     
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    That's true, but the latter is not guaranteed to overclock to the former speeds. So you risk that when buying the cheaper CPU. (I've had it before when I bought a CPU 6 months or so after it came out, and it would not overclock 100Mhz more than stock, even with 1.7V!)
     
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    Rich (Bindi) said Ryzen was just poorly executed when we talked about the clocks. I thought AMD had deliberately borked them to 4ghz so they didn't give too much away but Rich doesn't wear a tinfoil hat and had the most logical explanation lol.

    And hey, look, they got 15% out of Bulldozer when refining it to Piledriver and all because they sorted out the power delivery and changed the transistors etc. IE - minor tweaks (like the GTX 480 - GTX 580, for example). So I can well believe that 15% because I reckon Ryzen's actual production phase and manufacturing phase was rushed to F.

    Any way, I shall take off my tinfoil hat now and look forward muchly to seeing this new gen. I hope they don't start getting greedy though, and the prices are the same or less as Ryzen 1 launch prices :)
     
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    Be interesting to see how the next revision fairs against the 1800x...at it's current price of £280 :O. My feeling is it may be 10% faster but at the RRP of £400-£450 whatever its supposed to be, it would make buying a 1800x @ £280 a good buy.
     
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    2700X benchmarks leaked, running at 4.35GHz.

    Link in OP.
     
  10. adidan

    adidan Avatar is nearly back in season.

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    No 2800(X) then, just the 2600 and 2700s.
     
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    I'm sure there will be a 4.4GHz 2800X if these leaks are lead to be true.
     
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    This is my fear for AMD, that any further gen 1 Ryzen price cuts would just make recommending gen 2 to anybody impossible...
     
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    Thankfully for them Ryzen is very cheap to make. Well, that's what they said any way. And it makes sense, given that every chip they produce (well, at least the CPUs) are an attempt at an 8 core. IE - they lazer one die for every CPU and they are all 8 core units.

    I would hazard a guess and say that sometimes they actually disable fully working cores like they used to with their older CPUs, just to make enough of the cheaper models.

    The way Keller designed it was amazing tbh.
     
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    It was rushed. Down to cost and time - limited test versions and GloFo not having another customer trying to reach 4GHz on bulk, b/c IBM always go SOI. They've had a year to optimize the design now and 12nm is a good half-node for everyone involved, luckily. (In comparison 10 and 7 w/o EUV need quad patterning which takes VERY long to do, and is very high cost. 12 is the last of the '16/14' generation). No IPC change (it's a + not 2), just some boost optimzations for single core perf gains and more TDP from the top chip so they can churn the volts higher. 480X is basically 380X repackaged afaik. They'll be saving back the "2800" in a pocket for the so-called '8 core' Intel releases Q3. It's not going to magic 5GHz. They've likely rinsed as much as they can from the X chips. Mid April is accurate date and they'll have boards ready this year, for a change.


    Whatever sells a chip in AMD's case. The risk is them killing their margin and making their financials look ****, crapping on analyst and investor reports. But, yes, you've really got to look at 1700X/1800X and wonder price/perf...
     
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    Globalfoundaries suggest Ryzen 3000 series could be 5Ghz.

    2600 due in at $199 upto $369 for the 2700x with $249 and $299 for the 2600x and 2700.
     
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    And let me guess. When the 3000 series is about to come out and it's leaked it's at 4.6Ghz they will say the 4000 series will be 6Ghz
     
  17. TheMadDutchDude

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    I will have one on launch day or extremely soon after. :)
     
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    Ryzen 1 can do 4Ghz on all cores, Ryzen refresh looks like it'll manage a bit more than 4, so 5Ghz isn't unrealistic at all for Ryzen 2, especially if we assume the worst case scenario of 5Ghz only being single core boost speed.
     
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    Some good RYZEN chips can actually manage 4.1 to 4.2 daily. They’re very rare, though.
     
  20. true_gamer

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    I'll be happy when we get 1THz CPU's, then these GHz speeds will feel like a 48K Spectrum. :D
     
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