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CPU Ryzen 5 2600 & R7 2700X Benchmarks leaked

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by true_gamer, 20 Feb 2018.

  1. adidan

    adidan Avatar is nearly back in season.

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    This is already confusing. Is Ryzen 2 officially the 3000 series (as in Zen 2) or is Ryzen 2 the 2000 series (the Ryzen Zen1+).

    Mee confooozed. :confused::eek::)

    The globalfoundaries comments we re Zen2 just to be clear :)
     
  2. Anfield

    Anfield Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, kind of silly of AMD to already go to 2xxx now despite it only being Zen 1.

    Just to avoid any confusion:

    Ryzen 1 (Zen 1) = 1xxx
    Ryzen Refresh (refined version of Zen 1) = 2xxx
    Ryzen 2 (Zen 2) = Presumably 3xxx
     
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  3. adidan

    adidan Avatar is nearly back in season.

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    That's how I figured it :)
     
  4. Guest-16

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    No, they suggested 7nm was good for 5GHz. People extrapolated from there.
     
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  5. tristanperry

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    So you're saying 7nm will actually be good for more than 5GHz, aka you're saying at least 7GHz?!?
     
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  6. Guest-16

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    Precisely. And it'll only be 30W for an 8 core processor.
     
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  7. djlegend

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    Why doesn't AMD want to release the 2800X model?
     
  8. Vault-Tec

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    *tinfoil hat*. Either they are not going to bother** or they are still refining the clocks..

    **TBH I would not even bother with a 2800x. The 1800x wasn't wildly popular most of the Ryzen I saw people buying were 1700 and 1700x. Even as a complete noob on the tech I was able to OC my mate's by proxy (he's in the USA) in about five minutes and his 1700 did an easy 3.9ghz.
     
  9. djlegend

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    I understand. AMD could get the CPU out later, once it sees what moves Intel will do.
     
  10. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The 1800x offered little over the 1700[x], and anyone wanting more than what a 1700/2700 can offer will likely be eyeing up threadripper anyway...
     
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  11. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Exactly that... having three in the original plan was a stupid idea.
     
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  12. Vault-Tec

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    It wasn't really the CPU that didn't make any sense, just the price lol.
     
  13. TheMadDutchDude

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    Especially when you consider that they all had the same hard limit of around 4 GHz. xD
     
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  14. Anfield

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    Indeed, 1800x was worth a £10 premium over the 1700 tops.
    Of course some idiots like me ordered an 1800x before reviews hit in hopes of a bit of extra oc headroom, but logic dictates that 1800x sales must have fallen off an absolute cliff in favour of the 1700 once reviews hit.
     
  15. sandys

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    There would have been plenty of people not interested in an overclock.

    The 1800x had a 200Mhz extra base and boost clock advantage over the 1700x, you could just drop it in and you'd have the fastest Ryzen, there were many people with 1700s that didn't hit 4Ghz.

    For those that don't overclock the 1700 was very slow due to it base clock being ~ 600Mhz slower than a 1800x at full load making the 1800x worth every penny.

    Similar reason I bought the 1900x, because it was the fastest clocked Ryzen you could buy all core 3.9 out of the box no overclocking, I didn't need all the cores of the bigger chips, 1900x was already 8 threads more than I had ever owned with loads of PCIe

    The most interesting thing about the new chips is not the max clockspeed its what they manage to maintain under load with the new precision boost and xfr, how it works in gen1 is pretty lame with 1c/2t able to max boost but dropping down to base with 3 threads in use, TR only marginally better with 2c/4t due to its split core make up.
     
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  16. Guest-16

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    Yea, they needed to be more granular. If Windows decides to target several cores on/off you want it peaking frequency not all going to low clock because they're "active"
     
  17. Wakka

    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    I'm still a little puzzled with Ryzen and max clocks - the LN2 results show the architecture CAN do 5Ghz+, but the scaling between that and stock/air cooling just doesn't exist. It doesn't seem to matter how big of a radiator you have or how close to ambient your delta is, no Ryzen chip is going to go higher than it would on high end air cooler or AIO unit.

    I hope the 2-series can add a bit of flexibility between 4 and 5Ghz for those that have some serious watercooling hardware, but I suspect Zen 2 will be required for that.
     
  18. TheMadDutchDude

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    CPUs scale very, very differently with extreme cold. That’s why.
     
  19. tristanperry

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