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CPU Ryzen 5000 set to bury Intel.

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Vault-Tec, 29 Sep 2020.

  1. Aytos

    Aytos Minimodder

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    I'm not surprised by price increase - that was to be expected if 5000 series can match or outperform solutions from Intel. I'll be getting new CPU in November, just not sure which one, a lot depends on pricing.

    Lets step back a bit: Ryzen 2700X vs 3600 - bigger core count on 2700X does not matter that much, since has 3600 has better in IPC and performs better even in multi-threaded scenario. Now if 3000 series drop in prices, we could even look at 3900X vs 5600X in similar price range. Not sure if IPC increase will be enough alone, since core count is doubled. Originally I was planing to get something in middle range like 3700X, now there will be a lot to think of.
     
  2. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    Whatever happens, I'm looking at a new mobo with my next CPU upgrade. Can't fit a 5000 in a B350. :(
    Question is, do I jump onto a B550/X570 now, or struggle on for another year or 2 and then need DDR5 as well?
     
  3. Guest-44432

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    Depends on your needs. The 5xxx series will be a nice jump in performance over the 2xxx series.

    As with DDR5, it will be expensive on launch and for a good while after if it is anything like DDR3 and DDR4 to go on.
     
  4. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    I'm use to having a platform for a long time once iv invested, but tech seems to be moving at a blistering speed now thanks to AMD.

    I'm going to hold out on this gen with my 3600, and get DDR5 Ryzen 6000
     
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  5. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Pretty much the same.

    I am tempted but I think it's time for a GPU before a CPU.

    Mind you if a bargain 3700x or 3800x comes along I may jump on and wait for the DDR5 platform.
     
  6. j_jay4

    j_jay4 Minimodder

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    You can get both these 8 core CPUs for less than a 5600X (£300). I guess the 6 core 5600X will crush them in single threaded performance and therefore gaming? I'm sat on a ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I Gaming wondering what CPU to put in? My budget was around £200 but was planning to stretch to a Zen 3 but probably not at these prices.
     
  7. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Yeah dunno, my 3600 hasn't held me back at all so I still think my route would be a gpu next - at 1440p it seems decent from tests i've seen with 2080Tis so a 3070/AMD equivalent should keep me going at this res for a while with no need for a cpu upgrade.

    Dunno, quite often my 'want' outweighs my 'need'. :happy:

    Still happy with my 3600 TBH but then I did move from a 3770 (although that's still in use in my second rig).

    Mind you my second rig could always be upgraded and that monitor does get a bit of ghost imaging from time to time.... :lol:
     
  8. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    You've hit the nail on the head there, square on.

    I have been thinking for many weeks now, about a CPU, m/board and RAM upgrade next year. This morning, I had an attack of realism, what the hell do I need an upgrade for now? R7 2700 is plenty fast enough for all I do and, in combination with a GTX 1070ti, makes mincemeat of WoW and the few other RPG/MMORPG games I play at 1440p. It's not even like ESO 6 is going to crawl out from under it's stone anytime soon. Going to save for a new Stressless or G-Plan chair and upgrade the PC when AM5 is AMD's latest thing.
     
  9. David

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    Yeah... The 3600 is just great but I have a serious want for a 5800x, even though I have absolutely no justification for it.

    I don't need the ability to encode video any faster than I can right now. It's just... want.
     
  10. BeauchN

    BeauchN Multimodder

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    I'll be picking something up as my 1600AF was always planned as a placeholder for Zen 3. But, still trying to decide whether I get a 3800X or better from someone upgrading, which I'll probably replace with a 5000 series somewhere down the line, or just go all out and buy a 5000 now...
     
  11. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    Thats reinforced by having no actual idea of performance... So it really is just a want! Just shows how powerful the right kind of marketing can be!

    Edit: Also, I thought Intel Quicksync or Nvenc were the best encoders to use, so if you're into video encoding AMD CPU's ren't the best choice anyway?
     
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  12. David

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    The want has existed for quite some time - it isn't due to marketing, it's based on the long held assumption that zen 3 will do to zen 2, what zen 2 did to zen. I just didn't know the name, because until a week ago I still thought it was called the 4000 series.
     
  13. Anfield

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    QuickSync capabilities vary hugely between different generations and skews of Intel CPUs, so unless you have the latest and greatest Intel CPU with QuickSync support then you'll be staring down the upgrade tunnel very intently...

    Nvenc is my current weapon of choice as it craps all over what both AMD and Intel CPUs are capable of.
     
  14. samkiller42

    samkiller42 For i AM Cheesecake!!

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    I would be very tempted to change to Zen 3 from my 2700x, and if it's a case of a BIOS update on my x470, then that's a further win win.

    Sam
     
  15. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I'm not sure of other manufacturers but MSI are supporting them on B450/X470 - I presume others will do likewise.

    I don't think it's dependent on having a board with 32mb BIOS chips but i'm not sure on that.
     
  16. Vault-Tec

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    January apparently for 400 bioses. Just check regularly on the manu's site I guess.
     
  17. Spanky

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    I dont think prices are too bad. Yes a 5600 would be nice but i want to see the benchmarks for any justification. And if i remember rightly both the 2xxx and 3xxx come down in price relatively quickly after initial release , granted Intel had the legs on them at that point. I think i paid £145 for my 2600 and £155 for the 3600 within a couple of months after release.
     
  18. Spraduke

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    I know I needed a new GPU (R9 390 currently) but didn't realise how much! My 3600x sits at 20% usage in hell let loose (ue4 engine).
     
  19. Anfield

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    CPU utilisation in one game says basically nothing (too many variables, most importantly the game itself).

    But yeah... the R9 390 certainly belongs in a landfill, even old cards like a 2080TI offer more than double performance.
    Luckily for you Nvidia has made the decision to wait and see what AMD will bring in a couple weeks easy by virtue of 30x0 availability being imaginary.
     
  20. spolsh

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    I'm just gonna leave that there ...
     
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