Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Vault-Tec, 6 Feb 2017.
Ah. I must've missed your /s
There wasn't one to be fair, but the sentence made sense.
I look forward to the new Ryzen CPUs. I really am hopeful that I can get my hands on an early one to see what they're like.
BTW - I put this in the bargains subforum. Amazon have cheap Ryzens today:-
and if you are lucky you might win the lottery
Remember getting a Phenom II 555 BE that happily unlocked it's extra 2 cores AND would run at 3.7Ghz without complaining. Do I play the lottery again, or just hold out for Zen+??
So, Asus are finally releasing an ITX B350 Strix board
Considering how cheap the full size B350-F is, that's taking the absolute piss. Hoping it's a place-holder price and it'll be more in line with other offerings.
Just in time for the move to X470/B450 for Pinnacle Ridge...
It's 1,889 in KR which is about £175. However, that may be pre tax.
The Inquirer are reporting what seems to be "across the board" price cuts on Ryzen CPUs. (As long as you don't go to Scan...)
Yeah it seems they are getting ready for coffee lake
I really, REALLY hope they can jump the clocks up with Pinnacle Ridge, they don't even need to touch the IPC, just make it happy at 4.4-4.5Ghz and i'll be all over it.
if they're wanting £175 for the b350, i dread to think how much the x370 version will be...
In other news, I had some goodies arrive from The States yesterday (care of @mnpctech ) for the revamp of my rig -
They are absolutely mint!!!
Piezen 1700 at 3.925ghz
16GB at 3400mhz
Offset overclock dropping vcore down to 1.08 idle.
Giga Gaming 5 mobo with beta bios.
My ram can do much better... need to optimise. It's Teamgroup 8-Pack 4000mhz but Piezen very limited at the moment. Only got it booting at 3.6ghz ram once. Was even worse with previous bios (couldn't get ram past 2.9ghz).
I'm hoping to sometime in the future join the Ryzen bandwagon.
I have a question for you Ryzeneers.
Why do people try to overclock all cores equally?
Say the R7 1700. Depending on cooling, there's more or less a cap of overclocking at 4GHz across all cores.
Would it not be possible to set, say, 2 cores to 4.2GHz and the remaining to 3.7 or 3.8GHz?
Then set affinity to your single or dual-core heavy games?
Maybe even configure it to overclock dynamically to these speeds based on load, using an aggressive governor (is this a thing on Windows?), same way XFR works?
I'm having a bit of difficulty explaining my intention, I hope that was clear enough.
At the moment you don't seem to be able to do it independently, the chip itself can do so but there isn't any software control to do so manually.
It looks like Ryzen Master software is geared up for it but all speeds are synced right now, maybe next version of the chip or software will allow it, with the 1900X I haven't bothered overclocking, 4 threads will XFR boost upto 4.2, all cores do 3.9, the extra bump from OC'ing 3.9 to 4.2 makes very little difference in the grand scheme of things for me due to the heat and voltage required, so I just leave the CPU to its own devices unless benchmarking.
As a 4K games machine the clocks on my GPUs are more important than the CPU, the CPU just needs to be quick enough to support them, which it is.
I think the cap is in the silicon, regardless of how many cores you're trying to push. R7 would be an absolute beast if you could clock one CCX to 4.5Ghz and keep the other at stock, but unfortunately the ceiling is the ceiling, whether it's 1, 4 or all 8 cores.
If you use something like status core you will see Ryzen XFR will clock any core over 4Ghz, on R7 it is 2 thread XFR, it could be 2 threads on any core, the chip does it dynamically, it would be nice to have some control of that and I hope that is what comes, Ryzen master looks quite elaborate with all the sliders for them to be synced so I would assume the intention is to give you full control, just hypothesising could just be software bloat
I should try turning half my chip off and see if it goes over 4.2.
Im hoping agesa 184.108.40.206 will allow higher speed ram to work more stable, guess we will find out in November.
Apparently its a complete rebuild, intended for the new apu's, Fingers crossed for improvements over 220.127.116.11
Does anyone have a copy of matlab to benchmark with? I've seen reports which suggest that Ryzen is being horribly hobbled to the extent that a 1700X was twice slower at matrix multiplication than a two-core kaby lake laptop CPU.
I'd be interested for confirmation and strongly suspect those Intel ***** are up to their old tricks.
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