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Case Mod - In Progress SAKSAK 800 D CASE MOD+ Watercooled with Copper and Acrylic pipe update 06 AUGUST2014

Discussion in 'Project Logs' started by arg-ist, 28 Apr 2014.

  1. arg-ist

    arg-ist Minimodder

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    Hi
    Most of members know my old worklog ı hope.

    SAKSAK 800 D CASE MOD+ Watercooled with Copper and Acrylic pipe


    I had used at this project
    MB
    ASUS R4 Black Edition

    All waterblocks EK

    WB for MB
    EK-FB KIT ASUS R4BE Nickel Plexi Clean CSQ
    WB for CPU
    EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ Nickel Plexi
    WB for Video
    2X EK-FC TİTAN SE Nikel Plexi -Clean CSQ
    Rezervuar
    EK –X2 250mm
    Rads
    1x Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 360mm
    1x Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 240
    Fittings
    30x Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black Enhance Dual Multi-Link For Acrylic Tube OD 12MM
    Fluid
    Primochill Liquid Utopia Fluid Dye Pack- BLOOD RED
    Pump
    Swiftech MCP655™ Series 12 VDC Water Pumps - With Speed Control



    I have used Rads Alphacool UT 60 and MONSTA ( FULL COPPER)
    All waterblocks from EK ( FULL COPPER-and NICKEL COATED !!! )
    Reservoir EK X2
    Fittings Bitspower
    Fluid Primochill
    Hard tubing
    There is nothing in the system as corrosive.


    Can you please suggest me a better quality of these products.


    And this are the results after 3 Months.


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    Who is to guilty at this business.

    MANUFACTURERS...

    OR

    arg-ist….


    Because ı believed , trusted, paid and used this products…

    Is there anybody who have anything to say me… arg-ist
     
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  2. Hukkel

    Hukkel James' minion

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    Did you flush the radiators before you put together the system?
     
  3. saxovtsmike

    saxovtsmike Minimodder

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    This does not look ok.
    If I can do a guess I´d say the radiators weren´t flushed propper and you got production chemicals into your loop or it was the fluid.
    Do I see it right, that the nickel plating from the cpu block was corroded off or are these particles/stains.
    I had problems like that way back with a HD5870 while i was using destilled water and Basf G30 which was quite popular back in the days and should be no problem when mixed right.
    Stupid me didn´t like the Pinkish color of the mix, and added mor of the G30, and finally added some food color (which was not an un-usual way to dye the water).
    Had pretty bad stuff in my Cpu cooler, and the Plexi GPU block was a mess.
    All the softener was washed out of the soft tubing.
    After a complete rebuild of the loop I switched over to DP-Ultra from Aquacomputer, in the color of my choice (tried red and blue in different projects) and never had a problem again.
    After a period of about 6 month the clear Tubing got some color from the fluid. It wasn´t that clear any more and got a tad blueish and red but was only visible after draining of the loop
     
  4. arg-ist

    arg-ist Minimodder

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    Thanks Hukkel...

    Of course , ı flushed the rads and Copper pipes with PRİMOCHİLL Sys Prep. Pre-Treat ,
    before putting system together, and rinsed with Deionized water.

    After installing the system ı have rinsed whole sytem 3 times with High Purity Deionized Water.
    İt worked 3 days with deionized water as trial..

    and then fully discharged and filled with Primochill Fluid.
     
  5. arg-ist

    arg-ist Minimodder

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    Hi you know the problems with my EK Nickel Coated Waterblocks,

    This is one of the block. They are full correded at 4 months and nickel coating was robbed. You can see copper on nickel coated waterblocks.

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    And EK could do nothing for blocks…whic are used onl 4 months....
    This is the answer of EK about the problem. Thanks !!! EK for your help…

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    I must do anything for waterblocks…

    firstly cleared corrosion as chemically and mechanically

    than Nickel coated again

    “sadly you can't do anything but to replace corroded parts.” Was the answer of EK…

    And this are the results from waterblocks….

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    EK said :
    “It would be a good idea to find out what is the cause of it in order to avoid it happening in the future. “

    I shall think two times when buying EK EN Waterblocks again..
    You can also do so. arg-ist

    Of course an new build and upgrade is coming so.on
     
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  6. uerseya

    uerseya Covered in rock wool

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    For what it's worth I've used EK blocks for the last of my 3 water cooled builds without any problems at all with the blocks, so my suggestion would be there is something else in your loops that is stimulating the corrosion ?

    Without knowing about every single component and material in the loop your guess is as good as mine as to what item or items you've used, i.e. radiator, connectors, fluid, etc. in the loop may have caused the corrosion.

    Hope that helps.

    P.S. - I would also say no water cooling component manufacturer is going to warranty their equipment for use with anyone elses components and instead would only guarantee no problems if every single component in each loop is from them
     
  7. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    Silver kill and/or copper sulphate will cause mild corrosion as will using vinegar or lemon juice to clean out components and then not flushing thoroughly.

    The plating on EK blocks is only a few microns thick and supposedly for looks not for long term protection. A corrosion inhibitor will help a lot, it won't stop it but it will slow it down. Checking the ph of the fluid regularly and changing it should it start getting too acidic will help.
     
  8. arg-ist

    arg-ist Minimodder

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    Thanks “uerseya “ and “big elf “

    My question was “Who is guilty at this problem “…

    First ı can say alt The parts are flashed with PRİMOCHİLL Sys Prep. Pre-Treat 3 times and rinsed with pure H2O over and over.

    Second there was no silver coil at the loop.of course no Coppersulphate.

    Used Primochill Primochill Liquid Utopia Fluid Dye Pack- BLOOD RED (contains concentrated coolant dye and Lıquid utopia protectant. And says:

    “ Primochill s watercooling fluid innovation Liquid Utopia, offers a full line of protection against algae and corrosion when added to new or existing cooling loops. “

    And used parts at the loops
    Rads Alphacool UT 60 480 and Alphacool Monsta 240
    WB s EK Nickel coated
    Pomp Swiftech 655
    Fittings Bitspower
    Rez EK 250
    Pipes Copper and plexi
    That was all ı have used….


    uerseya said: “ P.S. - I would also say no water cooling component manufacturer is going to warranty their equipment for use with anyone elses components and instead would only guarantee no problems if every single component in each loop is from them “

    I have bought all thise parts to use at a water cooling loop ,
    I did not get them to use as DECORATION STUFF !!!

    If there is no sense of warranty to thise products,
    why do we pay a lot of Money to buy quality product…
    There are a lot of cheap products in China to use…

    I make Ph test every 3-4 months for m y sytem build , but corrosion occurred in 4 months.
     
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  9. Mod Art Pc

    Mod Art Pc What's a Dremel?

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    very good jobb..:):)
     

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