Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by GreatOldOne, 11 Jul 2005.
Blatently the developers taking it too far.
the most hilarious thing i found in one of the articles i read about this, and i think the thing that says the most about the current state of our social system, is that following the discovery that the game possibly contains pornographics material, a nationwide parental alert was issued.
a nationwide parental alert.
for an 18 rated game
which contains drug use, bad language, prostitution and gang violence.
a game which is illegal to sell to minors.
a nationwide parental alert.
so what now then, demand a mass recall? or just demand a clean(er) version.
The devs shouldnt take it this far and not expect things to happen, it was only a matter of time before a hacker found the unused story and reactivated it, especially on a game thats highly moddified.
Not that i'm complaining.
In the US the game got rate "M" (mature, 17+) and not the highest AO (Adult Only, 18+). Most stores in the US will not sell an AO Game so develpers try really hard to get M instead of AO. The problem is it is not a crime to sell a M game to people under 17 in the US. There are lots of kids playing the game who are 13+ because the parents either don't know or don't care.
Excuse me for thinking that it was a matter of parental responsibity to check just what is in the games that your kids play, my been a parent and all that. My mistake!
If they didn't care, then this shouldn't be all that upsetting. After all, you're going to draw the line at a digital x-rated act after your 13yr old just capped 3 people in a drive-by and picked up a hooker anyway?!
And if you didn't know the concept of the game your 13 year old kid is playing where he's driving around, hitting pedestrians, running drug deals, and taking part in drive-by's, you're either (1) blind, or (2) too stupid to be allowed to reproduce, or at least to raise the kids. To check out and take interest in what your kid is doing is part of what they call PARENTING.
Fod is right. It is very upsetting that this somehow has a "nationwide parental alert" when parents whose children are young enough to be influenced by this SHOULDN'T HAVE THE GAME ANYWAY. There's enough stuff in GTA:SA aside from this.
I guess it all goes back to the age-old issue: It's alright for my kid to watch massive murdering/violence, high-level gore, racial hatred, profuse swearing, etc. But let him/her watch two people have sex?! Nooo...what kind of parent would do such a thing?!
An old philosopher named Krishnamurti once said, "It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." We now raise people to think love is boring and overrated, sex is immoral, and violence is A-OK. Gee, wonder why we have so many problems?
The actual mod is hardly pornographic. You can change positions and spam a button to make it happen.
You see no "gory" details. You see no penetration, no genitalia, I'm not sure if there's even a breast on show.
It's absolutely laughable that this is worthy of an investigation, in a game where you burn, cut, blow-up, run-over and shoot people to death, along with do deals of a variety of drugs, pick up prostitutes, work as a pimp - which is all deemed suitable content (not that it should be censored!).
Sex is in fact one of the few things in the game I can do without going to jail.
There is one girl friend that you can see a boobie It's the girl in downtown San Fierro, Michelle. The only reason you can see boobie is because the developers forgot to actually properly map out the textures in the bedroom scene (IE: all the textures, including CJ, are warped and messed up leaving some bit's to wireframe, and just a random whirling).
There is no mention of sex ever in the game, and even if you unlock these areas, you never get to actually see anything that could ever be deemed explicit.
I don't know though, I personally would never let my children have sex. But hey, if they want to go pop a cap in some "niggas ass" (to use the proper game terminology), who am I to complain? It's been passed by the ESRB after all!
not that I actually have kids, or want kids that is
actually, most of the chain stores have policies at least to not sell to underage persons (as it turns out, best buy is dumb enough to think M means "you need to be 18" not 17).
tbh if you're old enough to buy the game and smart enough to hack it, it's not a problem. yes the developers are a bit irresponsible, but it's not a stock feature. It's like saying the security holes in Windows are meant to be there.... it's really just irresponsible coding.
Grr, it's not irresponsible coding, there are a lot of areas, missions, and features to the game that were not included due to rushed time constraints (read up on the many many links and articles floating around the internet).
Having "coffee" with a girlfriend was to be a whole new sub-section to the game to make it a lot harder, but obviously they felt it wasn't necessary. In Los Venturas when your working for woozie doing the heist, one mission in particular that is annoyingly difficult when the censor is off is "Key to her heart."
With the censor on, you litteraly don't have to do much of anything, and it's one of the easiest missions in the game.
The point is that there is a very large part of the game that was cut out, and most people don't know that it is there. As well, you have to modify (against the T&C which you agreed to) the game in order to even view these scenes.
Ho hum... isn't it about time the US took a look at the UK's ratings system and realised we have it so much better off, at least in my opinion.
All the GTA games have been rated 18, and no one under 18 should've been allowed to buy the game (same as buying/viewing movies).
Ratings should be enforced, not just a weak suggestion.
forgive me, but what parent in their right mind would let their kids play an 18+ rated game? THAT'S the irresponsible thing here.
the game is only suitable for adults for very good reasons, and anybody who suddenly throws a hissy fit over "omg kids are seeing teh pr0n1one" defines the essense of hypocrisy.
Ratings are so misleading anyway, films can cause little timmy to wet the bed that have only been rated twelve. Things which are truly frightening don't use gore...
(personaly I laugh my head off during horror films so please don't trat me as sane)
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