Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro Crossfire Trouble

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  1. tensaisteve

    tensaisteve What's a Dremel?

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    I just built a new computer with the following specs:

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4 Ghz
    MSI 975x Platinum Power Up Version (v7.4 BIOS)
    4 x 1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR800
    150 GB WD Raptor
    2 x Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro (Catalyst 7.3 Display Drivers installed)
    OCZ GameXstream 700W Power Supply
    Windows XP SP2 (Updated)
    Samsung 226BW Monitor
    Viewsonic VX2245wm Monitor

    The computer works fine with just 1 video card plugged in. However, once I try to crossfire the 2nd video card, the BIOS and windows XP screen boot up, but when it comes time to loading the desktop, the screen goes blank or a bunch of black and white squares with colorful dots appear. Can someone help me troubleshoot this problem, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Can you use the second card on it's own?

    If not then it's faulty. If so then the bridge may be damaged, can you run in non-crossfire?
     
  3. tensaisteve

    tensaisteve What's a Dremel?

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    The 1st and 2nd cards work individually, so it doesn't seem like the cards are faulty. However, the blank screen and checkerboard effects appear when I connect the bridges and boot up windows xp to enable crossfire mode. I have not yet made it to the point where ATI Catalyst asks me if I want to enable crossfire nor the the desktop yet with bridges connected and both video cards powered on.
     
  4. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    It may be a faulty bridge or motherboard.

    The problem is that there's nowhere that I can find which has the board running in Crossfire.

    Can you boot with the bridges in safe mode (F5/F8 on boot)?
     
  5. tensaisteve

    tensaisteve What's a Dremel?

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    Nope, it doesn't seem like I can boot with bridges in safe mode as well. Perhaps it might be a mobo problem. Thanks for all your help so far though.
     
  6. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    The only thing I can perceive it being is a problem with the bridges or the motherboard.

    But I'm wondering if it's worth you stress testing the system, including the graphics cards.

    May be worth you contacting Sapphire and/or MSI as well/.
     
  7. Dean MF

    Dean MF PC Freak!

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    Okay, sorry to interupt with another question. I have a ECM Extreme ATi Crossfire board and only 1 Radeon X1950 PRO.

    I wanted to upgrade my graphics card, but the price seems far to steep to have better performance than the X1950. What if I just add another X1950 ? Will it make such a big difference in the performance in the games? And can I just add a normal X1950 PRO or must it be a crossfire main card or something like that?

    Oh, and where do yo get this bridge thing you keep talking about?
     
  8. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    The bridge is the communication between the two cards, if you're doing it via drivers, there may be a problem with the currently installed ones, if you're using the external dongle (bridge) then there could be a problem with that.

    The X1950s don't have a master/slave combination anymore I think (don't quote me on that) if there are master cards, and you don't have one, I'd advise that route, but try and get as close a match to your existing card as possible (i.e. same manufacturer, RAM, and PRO)
     
  9. Dean MF

    Dean MF PC Freak!

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    Thank you so much!! Okay, so where does one get this bridge connector thingie?

    And the biggest question of all: Is it worth it? :eyebrow:

    My X1950 is a 256mb, 256bit gpu, if I had to add another X1950 with the same specs, would it give me the performance of..lets say, a 384mb,384bit gpu?
     
  10. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Nope, it gives you the power of two 256MB, 256bit GPUs

    Means that both cards can work together, can't remember the exact figures but it is a significant improvement.

    The question is though: DO you need more power?
     
  11. Dean MF

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    Well, I actually would love more power at my disposal. For instance, playing a game like ARMA or call of juarez, i would like to be playing it with all options on and graphics set to the highest with the highest AA.

    So, can I then take it that one 384mb, 384bit gpu will outperform two 256mb,256bit gpu's?

    Any idea where i can maybe read up on crossfire stats on the net?
     
  12. Gravemind123

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    One more powerful card usually beats two weaker ones in crossfire. An 8800GTS/GTX of any type should outperform dual x1950pros in crossfire in most games, and have DirectX 10 capabilities. If you can only afford another x1950pro, then that will offer a performance boost, but not the same as buying a more powerful(as well as more expensive) single card.

    In response to DougEdey, x1950xt/xtx need a master edition card, but for x1950pros a normal card can function as either master card or slave card, which removes the need for a specific crossfire edition model. All of the HD 2000 series cards feature that form of crossfire as well.
     
  13. Dean MF

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    Okay, but now, my mobo is ATi Crossfire edition board - would I not be causing **** if I then place a nvidia 8800gts in there?
     
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    Nope, I think it was tom's hardware a while back that compared using ATI cards on nVidia and Intel chipsets, and nVidia cards on ATI and Intel chipsets. The result was that there really isn't a difference. You just have to be sure you remove the ATI video card drivers before you go to install the nVidia ones to avoid driver issues.
     
  15. Dean MF

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    Thanx a mil!!
     

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