Sc4mpi's v1000sli project Finished. New one begins (u2-ufo ordered yey :D :D)

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  1. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    Hello again. well the pc has been working for some time. but as i have it on my new desk i can see straight in and iv been thinking for some time that is has gotten rather tartish. (with the lights etc.)

    i originaly wanted it to be clean looking. but i think that my ego to get it finished and working took over and i ended up skipping and rushing things. and diverting from the original idea . (i originly planed plexi to be incorporated into this mod but again i ended up skipping that, to get the thing working and now i regret it.

    the dual loops turned out quite well but there is still a lot that could be achived from this and im falling short. :(

    after some thinking i wish to put the project back on track to were it should be. :)


    so far this down the line i am willing to strip it down and do it all again and do it right this time. :)


    This is a list that i have come up with, <<< if anybody can add anything to the list.To provide the cleaner look. his also incudes the gurus i,e modsquad , xarig. etc. all help would be Great!

    Try white lighting rathar than blue. (wont be so "bug zapper as someone put it")
    -Braid ALL the cables. that dont have braiding (Skipped)
    -incorporate the use of plexi. (Skipped)
    -Blowhole rubber on all the internal the holes. (skipped)
    -Mesh behind the hole in the bulkhead. (idea ?)
    -maby swap the fans out for black papst fans, cleaner look (idea ?)
    -Change the powerstream fan to black or white maby along with leds? (idea ?)
    -Bulgin antivandel switch. (skipped)
    -Front port removal (skipped)
    -Polish or nickle plate the mobo tray, divider plate. and 5 1/4" rack. (skipped)
    -use of a clean vfd in the top 2 bays (skipped)
    -Use 2x akasa 1 meter clear s-ata cables rather than that extender (skipped)
    -Better cable routing.
    -Plexi feet rather than wheels (skipped)
    -tinting the window maby? (idea ?)

    Any comments or general. help is all very welcome. i wana put this mod back to were it should have been :)

    p.s this is going to be the new log as the old one, was getting to packed.
    >> old log V1000Sli

    I have a couple of weeks coming up that i will have free, that i want to use to finsh this project properly :)

    Sc4mpi.. out
     
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  2. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    1. Keep it simple. Don't keep adding radiators and reservoirs (that BIX3 really is more than enough). Settle on a single, straightforward loop. Planning and elegance are key; for instance the way you hooked up your SLI blocks was clean, symmetrical, simple.

    2. Don't overdo the lighting. You like white? Check out Metaversa. All that inside lighting was done with a single LazerLED. You've got pretty looking components there, let lighting accentuate them, not distract from them.

    3. For the three top fans, get some nice laser-cut spiral fangrilles and put some "Tenderfeet" on. But whatever you do, those fan holes are a prominent and very visible feature of your case so spend some time and attention on finishing them nicely.

    4. At some point you have to settle on a plan/design and stick with it. Don't keep changing your mind and adding stuff --or you'll end up with something that doesn't look planned/designed at all! :D
     
  3. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    I agree but i do like the second res. i think they physicly are nice to watch bubbling. as for the dual loop. i think it was the fact. that i coulnt run all the Hardware off that tripple rad. With "these" fans on 5v,they hardly kick out any air , but also do not make any noise. so the dual loops was implemented to all for near silent running :), if a set of papst fans would be quite yet still kick out some airflow. then they might be worth investing in.

    I origanly planned it to be a black case. but when it arrived it was silver. so then the scheme i planned was faulted at the start. i do like the look of white but i also used to like blue. (but as someone said "blue has had its day")
    Any help on what to do on light would be most helpfull :D. i.e placement

    I do have some spiral grills, in a box on my shelf but they came from ebuyer and were far to oversized. they overlap eachother :(
    I do like the look of standad wire grills. but again when i take it appart im going to sand down and debur the inside of all the cuts. so there clean. as i never did it on the original build as i was occuped by other things.
    i could replace the blue leds with white. :) or just change the fans.
    i also like the clean edges of the cuts. im not to keen in putting blow hold rubber round them. i like them cleanly cut :)

    I did have a plan once :D, i spend a couple of weeks doodling drawing, and planning. but then when i started the project. i ended up deverting from the original, now i dont like what i have ended up with :(
     
  4. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    I totally agree with Nexxo. Get a plan and stick with it. If you have to make changes (like the dual-loop because of temps), do so with the plan in mind. Things happen, but as your comp is together and you know how it should work, they shouldn't be as prominent this time around.

    I'd let the blue tubing be shown off, but don't use blue lighting with it. IMO that color tubing doesn't need the UV lighting, which gets rather redundant and indeed has the bugzapper look. It works for some things, but I think a white or near white color (yellow?) would contrast nicely and make things stand out.

    I'd think about maybe the alum/"chrome" fans for the top. They should have better airflow than the clears and keep the look going nicely. Maybe something fancy to dress them up, but I don't think LED fans would be the way to go. And indeed, your temps should be much better. Admittedly I'm idling around 40c right now, but that's because it's stupidly hot in my room (almost 30c/85f). I'm sure your comp is quieter, but I've got almost the same setup as you with two 120mm rads, and aside from something which I'm 99.5% sure is related to Azureus, it's quite stable (and yes, I will be trying to make my setup quieter, but I think some investing in the noise foam should help). Right now I'm more worried tham my case temps than anything else, which read 50c on average (I think the temp sensor is between the two graphics cards), and I do have a good solution for that which really just needs parts (and a source) and money for them. I've also considered the fact that I quite frequently have something going on my speakers, so it may not be as much of a problem to not have the utter silence that I originally wanted.

    It all comes back to your goals, but consider whether they're really necessary. Always keep them in mind though, don't throw something in beause it catches your eye.

    For lighting, I think a bright [set of] LED placed in the area where the mosfet heatsink and 12v power plug are could do well. Something in the bottom drive bay could work too. I'm thinking if you take five or six chrome LED bezels and mount them in that little slanted bit on the divider piece, to the right of the drive bays, they'd have a good angle for illumination and it would be very easy to hide the wiring.

    I've been looking at the fan you have stuck on for a ram cooler thing... and I think I have a good idea. Take a piece of acrylic and try to bend it into a shroud.

    I'm trying to sketch something up on paper, when I get it figured out I'll take a pic and upload it.
     
  5. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/Firehed/IMG_1473.jpg

    ok you can get a vague idea with that. the text says:
    acrylic shroud covers ram
    mounts to plate with tabs+screws
    fan goe under and air flows up, over ram
    60mm fan

    anyways, you can see where I thought about putting the LEDs.

    the shroud would have a hole cut in the divider plate big enough for the whole thing, and it would come up from below (so you wouldn't see the tab things for mounting). the fan would get mounted under it somehow. to change ram, just unscrew it and it would drop down and you have access to it. It only covers the top edge of the ram, it doesn't go down over it.
     
  6. GigantoR

    GigantoR What's a Dremel?

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    The most important part I've learned so far is stick to the plan. That and patience! I have changed my mind so many times on my mod that any time I end up getting anything done I'll change the design and end up taking a step back. I am finally settling on a final design and am getting everything i need for it as we speak. Take your time too. Let the paint dry. Don't rush cuts or filing, it almost always screws up. For something to look professional, you have to be professional when you do it.

    Thats my 2 cents, now good luck on the final project!
     
  7. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    I see what your getting at and i like the idea, only problem is that it hits the second pump. and would also hit the outlet on the underside pump :( other than that im liking the idea with the bezals and white leds :)

    What is the noise to airflow ratio on them aluminum fans vs, say a normal papst fan?
     
  8. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    dunno, never used the aluminum ones (or papst for that matter), but I seem to remember the advertised specs putting it at a very good noise to airflow ratio. I have no idea how accurate that is though.
     
  9. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    the theme was going to be black and silver - with white lighting?. so i dunno black fans or aluminum ?
     
  10. eLV1s

    eLV1s What's a Dremel?

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    Hey, I was following the first stage of your project and sounds like its gonna just keep getting better. My vote for your fans would be go for the Papst purely for quietness, also it will be more than enough airflow going through your radiators, plus i think the contrast of the papst and some chrome wire grills would look pretty nice ontop.
    From memory the flow of the alu fans is about 84cfm and about 32dB.
     
  11. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    well a load of bits arrived this morning and iv been busy stripping the comp down. now its all out its time to get working :D.

    So far today iv got.

    - The powerswitch changed for a bulgin blue switch
    - all of the cables left have been braided :D.
    - I fully sleaved the powerstream & changed the fan from green to black.
    - Front usbs removed.
    - Plexi feet fitted

    , i also have been thinking. i looked for white cathodes and they seem hard to get now days?. so i think im just going to end up keeping the colour ,black,blue,sliver.

    so for now i will keep the leds fans. the only problem i had was that i run them all on 5v, rather than 12v and after a couple of weeks on 5v the leds seem to dye off =(, so today i came up with a solution i have rewired all the leds to a seprate 12v line and the fans still run off 5v. so i get silence whilst maintaining full led goodness :D

    so here are some pics of today. cant do any more realy till the rest of the parts arive next week.

    I also have somthing quite funky planned for the bayres lighting, rather than the blue cathode i used to have :D.

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    One messy workarea :D

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    Bulgin blue antivandel

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    Fully sleaved powerstream

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    The black fan - instead of the green.

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    The tripple rad with the rewired fans

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    Sleaved pump



    Thats all for tonight more tommorow.! :D


    Sc4mpi out....
     
  12. OdDBaLL_MoD

    OdDBaLL_MoD Always planning something...

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    Hey Sc4mpi, nice to see the computer still working after your watercooling went ca'put a while back...

    ...BTW, what desk is that that you have there?
     
  13. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    What pump is that? I can't seem to recognize it...

    Good idea with rewiring the fans, hope it works out well. It's safe to assume they'll be on top of the rad as shown when mounted (ie, sucking air thru the rad out the top), right (that's the "best" way to have it, supposedly better than pushing air thru)

    Glad you're doing a quality sleeving job. I can't stand to see half-assed ones (it ALWAYS shows and really takes down a mod), and yours seems to be excellent. Keep it up. You may wanna consider trimming down that powerstream lead that's like five feet long... that's just insane!

    Never really noticed it before, but that top 3x120mm plate on top looks really nice.
     
  14. dubya01

    dubya01 What's a Dremel?

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    Pretty sure its an eheim pump. Looks liek 1250 or 1048, not sure tho.
     
  15. FanatiK

    FanatiK What's a Dremel?

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    You should`ve gone with white. You don`t see many pcs use this color. I think it would look good with the silver aluminum of the case. If you can`t find white ccfls just wire some leds together. Its not that hard and they will be easier to hide.
     
  16. waitandbleed

    waitandbleed What's a Dremel?

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    Geeze whats with all the powermac looking cases. Oh well. Atleast your makin your look better than the original powermac design! :D Keep it up. Update please :D
     
  17. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    The pump in the pic is a innovatek HPPS(eheim1046) which i modded. has a lead now rather than a a built in molex. and the back was sprayed black rather than its stock purple colour :)

    yep they will me mounted on top. sucking air through the rad and out the top :)
     
  18. sc4mpi

    sc4mpi OG watercooler

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    i was thinking of swapping all the leds in the fans to white. but they cost. 1.50 a time :O, i have somthing planed for the bay res i will try today should turn out quite cool i hope :D

    And i counlt find any white cathodes around at a resonable price. ?
     
  19. Dekode

    Dekode What's a Dremel?

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    nice idea :)

    Im doing the same thing with my v1000, using tinted arcylic
     
  20. waitandbleed

    waitandbleed What's a Dremel?

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    I have seen a couple of cases with this done. Looks really nice. When the computer is off you cant see or notice its tinted. Then when turned on the lights shine right through it allowin you to the internals. Im not sure if it was special tint or not. hmmm let me retrace my steps through my history log.
     

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