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Schwarzenegger signs trans fat ban legislation

Discussion in 'General' started by Gooey_GUI, 26 Jul 2008.

  1. Gooey_GUI

    Gooey_GUI Wanted: Red Shirts

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    I'm sure you can consider yourself as atypical. Most people don't want to stop long enough to worry about it. They just want what is most convenient. I.E. Fast Food
     
  2. fathazza

    fathazza Freed on Probation

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    how boring... i thought arnie was waging war against obscure niche porn
     
  3. E.E.L. Ambiense

    E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic

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    ^LOL. Hahahaha.
     
  4. Gooey_GUI

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    When I say most people, I should have said the majority of Americans who want convenience above healthy foods.

    Why the convenience? People have a hard time finding the time to shop with two and three jobs. The employment may be a collection of part-time jobs. Each requires a degree of mobility. They may require the fast Drive-In to wrap the food, in a convenient way, to allow commuters to continue eating while driving to their next job.

    Millions of people have very little free time to devote to shopping and cooking. (like they should)

    The problem is worse than ever because most Americans can seldom afford a single income. With a two worker family there isn't much cooking going on. If they are working that hard they probably can't afford good restaurants. Isn't there some stat that many Americans have a 60-70 hour work week, and they aren't counting commute time?
     
  5. Furymouse

    Furymouse Like connect 4 in dagger terms

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    I eat fast food everyday. Actually I eat the exact same thing everyday. But I believe it is the vast amount of hours at home and work sitting in front of a computer that's killing me. This actually sounds kind of funny when you think about. Now that all these businesses have no choice but to use more expensive products, the cost will be past onto the consumer. Higher prices on food, especially in a state with as many people as california, means more taxes for that state. Maybe a little conspiracy theory I know, but that's what I think.
     
  6. Lunn1

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    his hummers all run on vegetable oil
     
  7. dom_

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    I'm sorry what?

    If you think sitting down all day infront of a pc is killing you then stop it. Excercise and stop eatting crap too. I would rather kill myself than eat the same thing every day.
     
  8. Gooey_GUI

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    Some places are lucky to get a cup of rice (grain) to split amongst their family members. They eat rice everyday if they can get it.

    They don't have to kill themselves when they are starving to death anyway. But, hey, at least their not getting trans fats in their diet. Just look at them. They are so nice and skinny.
     
  9. dom_

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    I'm sorry but where in my post did i mention starving people and likining Furymouse to one? He has a choice, so do i, something completely different to your suggestion.
     
  10. Furymouse

    Furymouse Like connect 4 in dagger terms

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    Agreed it is my choice to eat the same thing everyday. I'm not really one for variety in my life. Funny thing is I'm a little underweight for my size, with about ten percent body fat. It's been better before, but I stopped playing soccer about a year back. Extrapolate what you will from that.

    Why not just ban all non-organic, raw unprocessed foods from these places? That seems to be the logical conclusion from what is happening.
     
  11. Gooey_GUI

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    The point is that some people eat the same thing everyday and they do not willingly kill themselves.

    The rest is sarcasm.

    Sarcasm aimed at the world in general. Shades of Darfur I guess.
     
  12. Altron

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    NYC just banned it 4 weeks ago.

    There was a big issue here, because butter contains natural trans fat.

    Even though the ban targets artificial trans fat in fast foods, it also bans some trans fats in butter.

    So, there were a bunch of mom & pop bakeries in NYC that had to remove butter from all their old recipes that they've using for decades. They're goofing around trying to find margarine and other substitutes for the butter, which is affecting the quality/taste of their pastries, and killing business for them.

    There are several bakeries in the NYC metropolitan area, but outside of NYC itself, who advertise "we still have trans fat here!"

    As far as I know, the bakery down the street from me, which is a 10 minute train ride from Lower Manhattan, is doing pretty good business, because they haven't had to change their recipes at all.

    Pastries and cake trans-fats are not nearly the health issue that fast food trans-fats are, because pastries and cakes are by nature a 'special occasion' thing, that you wouldn't eat every day.

    People around here are very big into picking their favorite restaurant, and then saying "[name of restaurant] is the BEST [type of food] restaurant in [specific area]"

    Let's say your favorite bakery is on 39th and 4th. You've been going there since it opened in 1973, and they make the BEST cannoli in Manhattan. Suddenly, they change their old family recipe to margarine instead of butter, you're outraged! For 35 years you have enjoyed their cannolis, and now they don't taste the same.

    So, what do you do? You drive up to Yonkers, or take the train to Hoboken, anything to find cannolis that are still being made the same way they have been for 50 years.

    The trans fat ban is definitely hurting NYC bakeries more than fast-food chains, because they don't have R&D departments and food chemists, they just have hard work and the cannoli recipe that Grandma brought from Italy in 1921. New Jersey and Westchester County bakeries have picked up business though, advertising "we still have trans fat"
     
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    As you kindly highlighted i did say
    I fail to see why i should get some guilt trip about starving people for saying what i would do in my situation.
     
  14. Cthippo

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    Point of fact, dear sir. If you want to lower health care costs, then you need people to be as unhealthy and stupid as possible. Those who die young are the cheap ones. The ones that really tax the healthcare system are the healty people that live to 90 and need lots and lots of care.

    On the other hand, if your goal is to help people live longer and better lives, then yes, the trans-fat ban is a good thing.
     
  15. zeroinfinity

    zeroinfinity hmmm.

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    Yeah, here in NYC we did this recently, also we required that all restaurants (bars included) show how many calories is in the food.

    It's just like MSG. Around the corner, we have a few Chinese places. Two of them have signs that say "No MSG". One (the one I frequent) doesn't have a sign, but has a specific section of the menu that says "MSG Free Menu", with a few items there. The other Chinese places food doesn't taste the same -- it's rather bland.

    EDIT: I don't think they should be banned. People should just choose to eat better and have healthier lifestyles. I don't want the government banning all kinds of food, MAKING me eat better (or eat food that is more chemically altered). That choice is mine to make.
     
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  16. Gooey_GUI

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    I'm sorry if pointing out that there are indeed people who would rather eat the same thing than die and that has made you feel guilty. Being a starving human is possible for all humans.

    Even if its a meager portion people will eat what ever they can. Haven't you ever heard of people eating soap, shoe leather, or tree bark to survive? My point was simple. Unless you really do have a death wish then you would be among the "willing to eat anything even if it was the same thing every day" crowd.

    Remember the movie "Castaway" with Tom Hanks?
    When he finally made it back to a celebration dinner at his work, there was a ton of seafood. He just looked at it and walked on by. What was it? Wasn't it something like 5 years he was there eating the same thing everyday?

    Blame it on
    "Wilson"
    who should have provided well
    rounded
    meals while he was on the island.

    Blame it on
    Bush who was too bogged down by the war on terror to do anything meaningful in Darfur

    It was just a mention for a worthy cause. People never talk about Darfur or Burma anymore. I mention it because you brought up the concept of starving to death.
     
  17. dom_

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    wow
     
  18. zeroinfinity

    zeroinfinity hmmm.

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    On to the next fad of the week. This is how the media is. Somehow, hacked pictures of Miley Cyrus seem to be more important than peoples struggling all over the globe. The news give more time to Miley and Britney spears than to the trainwreck that is Myanmar. :duh:
     
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    Thanks, welcome to bit forums. It wouldn't hurt to say "Hello" in a thread of your own.

    I haven't noticed many people from China posting here.
     
  20. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    Anyone with really good antivirus defenses care to try out the link in Alice_LJ's signature? :)

    Call me a cynic...

    -monkey
     

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