Storage SEAGATE TO BUY OCZ

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  1. Harlequin

    Harlequin Modder

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...9?feedType=RSS&feedName=innovationNews&rpc=43

    ok so reuters are citing fudzilla as the source , so take with a pinch of salt - but a match made in hell if its true....
     
  2. ninjaplease

    ninjaplease I don't know what I'm doing

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    Awesome if true, I wonder if we're gonna see much improvement on hybrid drives as a result. also everything else.
     
  3. Guest-16

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    So, Seagate would now own: Samsung, Maxtor & Lacie. While WD own Hitachi. They both are desperately missing an SSD 'company' - WDs SSDs never took off an Seagates hybrid drives are frankly too expensive. I think it's their efforts in the server arena that make them the most attractive: what they technology is worth and Seagate's channels in the server area. I'd expect WD to look at buying a controller company, or, an SSD brand with the capacity to do their own firmware next.

    However talk of Micron, who just bought Elpida, wanting them is also plausible for the extra NAND sales (plus they are soon going to sell the 'memristor' NAND next year iirc).

    Also, this leak, very clever for increasing your share price ahead of the buy, Mr Peterson ;)

    Very interesting. If Seagate can pull off the technology, they'll give LSI and Intel a run for their money in server.
     
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  4. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    @Bindibadgi: WD could buy A-DATA, Patriot or Kingston, they would get all in one bag. USB hard drives, memory cards, memory, SSD :). They will probably have to get one of them now, when seagate grabs OCZ.

    On other side, OCZ had a bonus feature -their own (formerly hardware, but now pretty much only firmware) team from Indilinx. Sandforce is already sold (LSI), Intel is Intel :), Marvell is too big and JMicron is not interesting enough.

    It will be interesting to watch what WDC will do now.
     
  5. Harlequin

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    theres also plextor as well
     
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    A-DATA and Kingston are too expensive: they are #1 and #3 in memory sales. Patriot doesn't have the technical capacity, same as G.Skill (who would never sell anyway). None of these have server designs anyway.

    There are other chip companies out there, like LAMD, but you need the server weighting - people, possibly patents or at least research.
     
  7. Chicken76

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    Seagate now owns Quantum too. They used to make pretty good drives back in the day, didn't they?
    And WD has the HDD division of IBM too, don't they?
    The only other producer left is Toshiba, who in turn has Fujitsu's HDD division.

    Less and less options every year. :grr:
     
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    I haven't decided whether or not this is a good thing.
     
  9. andrew8200m

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    Disaster for resellers due to how seagate work.

    Disaster to customers as ultimately will mean more expensive drives due to how seagate work.

    Disaster to overall OCZ business due to how seagate work.


    ... Disaster
     
  10. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

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    Competition is getting less and less. Such a pity about them though as I rated there memory sticks very highly. They should have stuck with the memory sticks, certainly got Corsair places
     
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    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    1) sorry for being a grammar nazi, but "there memory sticks" ? The correct word is "their".
    2) they left the memory business because of high competition and high prices and looking at the current market, they did the right thing. SSD = still relatively high margin, memory = low to no margin.

    PS: I have absolutely no idea what you mean with "certainly got Corsair places" :D
     
  12. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

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    Well with Corsair predominantly starting off with memory, they have now branched out to a lot more than just memory. As for my grammar I think I do just fine. I speak five languages and I master none and it gets me through life just fine.
     
  13. andrew8200m

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    You couldn't have gotten that last statement at point number 2 any more wrong if you tried.

    Memory makes 2-3x the amount margin wise as SSD. SSD at present is a blood bath and an absolute disaster in most cases.

    As for incorrect grammar, it wasn't. It was a correct spelling but the wrong word. Grammar wise there was nothing wrong with his sentence.
     
  14. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    But not at the time OCZ left the memory market. Just remember what the SSD market was at start of 2011 (OCZ leaving memory market at that time). SSD products were responsible for 80% of their revenue, the rest was split evenly between memory and PSU. They left the market they didn't considered profitable enough, or didn't have market share high enough. By that logic Nokia would still be making paper, rubber products and cables :hehe:.
     
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    Should be its. Companies are singular entitles.

    They left because of low prices. No margin. Mainstream SSDs are making less and less money but only more recently has it become more unviable. It's server where people make up the difference. However server is low volume and to balance the volume NAND buys with server sales you need both mainstream and server parts.

    ;)
     
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    This made me laugh. You bad man.
     
  17. Zinfandel

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    How is it awesome? It's a complete disaster. OCZ just starting to develop their own controllers meant there might be some actual competition.

    This is crap news.
     
  18. Harlequin

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    when they bought indilinx they licenced 2 marvell controllers - the 88SS9174 (as used by crucial) for the petrol and the marvell 88SS9187 for the vertex 4 ; they rebranded both - but the next controller will be a `new` inlinix based one.
     
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    One company to rule them all...
     
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